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keel fin

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:35 am
by Butchel
My 39' FB sedan has a thin, tapered fin stitch welded to the bottom of the hull on the center line. It is about 8' long and 8" deep at the stern. During transport from Maryland to Texas, some of the welds broke and it is hanging loose. The boatyard manager says it is an add-on and not factory original, thinks someone was trying to improve maneuverability and recommends removing it. Does anyone out there know its purpose, if it is necessary or desirable?

Re: keel fin

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:44 pm
by javalin390
Uh, that's part of the boat, not some useless add on. That is where your keel anodes bolt to. If I'm correct there should be a bunch of 1/4" bolt holes in it for the anodes. This will definitely need TIG weld back on before sticking it back in the water, AND put some new anodes back on it (especially if she is going into salt water) Can you post a picture of this?

Re: keel fin

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:46 pm
by javalin390
By the way, glad you got her down there ok. Did you find a buyer for the flybridge top?

Re: keel fin

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:11 pm
by jralbert
Picture, please and we can clear this up in a flash. But from your desciption, it sounds like it sure is a part of the boat. I am attaching a photo of my former '32 showing the last few feet of the "fin" (a keel stabilizer integral to Marinettes) when I was having the bottom blasted and repainted. It has a piece of blue tape covering the zinc strip over on the left side

Re: keel fin

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:30 am
by Butchel
No pics at this time. Joels picture shows the fin that my boat has. I'm now convinced it is factory. Yes, the anodes are bolted to it. It is going into very warm salt water. But, the boatyard guy, who has restored a Marinette before, advocates deleting the fin, welding six aluminum plates to the bottom of the hull (two forward, two mid-ship, two low on the transom) and welding sacrificial aluminum anodes to these plate. He says that is the best electrolysis protection to be had.
What about the maneuverability question? Does the fin stabilize yaw? Does it reduce skidding in a fast turn? Why is it just stitch welded on? Would a skeg at mid-ships (under the center of gravity) provide better maneuverability? Am I playing with fire here?
No sale. I decided to keep the FB top but delete the enclosure. Boating is, after all, an outdoor activity. I hacked off the front, rear and side ("X") struts and left only the trussed posts at the rear corners. This was necessary for shipping (the top then sat on the bridge deck with the rear corner posts hanging down into the cockpit.) I am presently designing a radar arch that will support the top. (Wind loads will be much less without the enclosure.) And, it will mount a new, cool, Raymarine Quantum radar!

Re: keel fin

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:54 am
by Busia
That is part of the keel, you need it. Factory installed. Clean it up and weld it back on. Easy job and will be done with MIG not TIG. The skin is not very thick so I would not weld plates to the skin to put anodes on. If you were to use the weld on anodes the thick keel would be the easiest place for them. The bolt on ones work well and are easy to do. ONLY use aluminum anodes. All the aluminum anodes are the same alloy. Best place I've found is boatzincs .com Just have the hull clean and bolt on with SS hardware.

Re: keel fin

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:44 pm
by EWRice
I would suspect that they stitch welded the outer keel to prevent it from warping bad.

Also, if that keel was not there, I bet that boat would be a bear to manuver at low speeds, and even a light wind would send you off course.

Re: keel fin

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:49 pm
by GB49
The entire boat is stitch welded..... but I would be very concerned how much pressure was placed on the hull to break that skeg. Hopefully nothing else is damaged, ie shafts.

-Karl

Re: keel fin

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:28 am
by Butchel
Roger. Nuff said. The fin stays with aluminum anodes and SS bolts. Thanks guys.
Butch

Re: keel fin

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:09 am
by bill
BigM
Butch,
Great post so far. Lots of useful information on this site.
When you get a chance hows about adding a signature to your posts :?: . :D
bill