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Engine Rotation Marine Articles >Boat Engine Parts > Engine Rotation People are often perplexed when asked by the marine parts man what engine rotation they have. Parts such as starters, distributors, camshafts and some engine oil seals are specified by engine rotation. Engine Rotation Rotation is always determined by looking at the flywheel end of an inboard engine. The flywheel of a standard rotation engine turns left, or counter-clockwise, when viewed from the flywheel. The flywheel of a reverse rotation engine turns right, or clockwise, when viewed from the flywheel. Most single engine inboard and I/O boats use a standard rotation (L.H.) counter-clockwise engine. Use the illustration to the right, supplied by API MARINE, to help understand engine rotation. If your boat has twin engines, counter rotating engines have long been used to neutralize propeller torque which improves vessel handling and performance. The port, left side engine, is the standard rotation engine. The starboard, right side engine, is a reverse or counter rotation engine. Sometimes it is not possible to view the flywheel so engine rotation will have to be viewed from the front of the engine. Just remember to reverse what you see at the front of the engine so it agrees with flywheel rotation. These are the guidelines for engines mounted in the normal fore and aft position with the flywheel closer to the stern of the boat. Some older boats used a flywheel forward configuration that can change the rules. Also, some ski boats with single engines, mostly Ford 302/351 power plants, used reverse rotation engines so it is a good idea to determine your engine's rotation before visiting the parts department to avoid error. Due to the higher production costs and the advent of fuel injected gasoline engines bristling with computer modules and sensors, engine manufacturers discontinued reverse rotation engines in most cases. Since then, engine outputs have been handled by reduction gears capable of reversing engine output rotation. Both engines are standard left hand rotation but the reverse reduction gear changes the starboard engine output to right hand rotation. This is a much simpler, less expensive way to handle the need for opposite rotating engines. Starter motors, when mounted forward of the flywheel, will turn clockwise (R.H.) to start a standard rotation (L.H.) counter-clockwise motor. Starters mounted aft of the flywheel will turn counter-clockwise (L.H.) to start the same engine. Everything is just the opposite when speaking of a reverse rotation (R.H.) clockwise engine.
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Suggestion: Be careful assuming that your engine rotation matches that specified in the article. In my 1984 39' FB Sedan (with 350HP, 454cid, Crusaders), the port engine is the counter rotating (RH) one - when it was disabled, I determined the direction of rotation with the help of a directional arrow on the engine near the flywheel then verified by bumping the starter. I actually had my engine rebuilt but if I'd taken the "standard" specified in the article as gospel and bought a standard rotating replacement I would have been in lots of trouble. From some other posts I've seen on this site (and the one before), I think maybe my boat is somewhat of an oddball but .... and I'm sure everyone knows what they say about ASS-U-MEing
Richard
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The usual rotation for twin props is outboard at the top, meaning that the port prop has left (anticlockwise) rotation, the starboard prop has right (clockwise) rotation.
If the trannys do not reverse the rotation, I believe that that is a right-hand engine on the port side, and a left-hand engine on the starboard side. I remember being interested in this, because it is opposite from the standard for twin-engine airplanes.
My boat does not have a reversed engine, so one of my trannys is doing some extra work.
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Richard:
You wouldn't have a photo or two of your boat and it's props as it sits out of the water? I have a theory that I'd like to test.
Jeff
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Richard: Are your velvet drive transmissions 1.92 to 1.0? If so, they reverse the rotation of the engine and your props would be turning the same direction as a boat with any other BW velvet drive trans with standard rotation port and clockwise rotation engine starboard.
Peter
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It appears that the port prop on Miss Cleo rotates CCW so the tranny must be reversing - seems to be a funny way to do it - to me, it seems that would be extra drag on the engine. So I think that Doug & Peter were right - maybe Jeff too. Anyway ... my point in the "suggestion" was that we all need to check before just buying an engine according to the "standard"
Jeff: I sent you a pic to an email address I had for you - if you don't get it, PM me with your address.
Richard
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...."So I think that Doug & Peter were right - maybe Jeff too."
Hee hee he he he hee!!!
Jeff
PS: Got photo. Weird how the motors spin the other way from normal for no reason.
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