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JB
#1 Posted : Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:15:10 AM(UTC)
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My boat, a 87 32" express has the hot old style { I guess} tube type bulbs.
I did a search but much of the info is outdated or the link is broken.
I want to chang over to LED on the entire boat as much as possible. No generator.
The 1156 LED bulbs are a more standard type bulb that the tube type I have.

Also would like to know about any good small solar trickle chargers.

Thanks for any help.

JB
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#2 Posted : Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:40:20 AM(UTC)
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JB: You may be mixing types of bulbs or I misunderstand the ones you are describing. The longer bulbs usually are AC, placed behind the wooden valance over the windows. They're known as showcase bulbs. You can get 120 v LED bulbs but you have to make sure they'll fit in the relatively narrow space available. They will be expensive, generally in the $50 and upwards range. And being AC, of course, you can only use them when hooked to shorepower because you have no genset.

The other bulb you may be describing is the DC, bayonet socket replacement for the 1156 automotive bulb used in the can style fixtures attached to the outside of the valance. I have a pair of those purchased about 5 years ago and use them generally only when we're on the hook because they draw very little on the battery. Downside is that they give off very little light, comparatively, and I'd need to turn on more fixtures to get reading light. I think each one of those things ran about $15 or $20. I don't have the current draw figures but I would guess that having 6 or 8 of them on at the same time still draws a little less than one filament bulb.

By the way, I was more impressed with the LED anchor light replacing the bulb type. Got it from an outfit called Stecktronics for about $100. It includes a very clever feature in its circuit board - the ability to display during night hours only, all the time, slow flashing, quick flashing or SOS. I have no idea whether it's visible at two miles as the regs call for but I don't care - I know it's visible for at least a few hundred yards and that is good enuf for me.

Meanwhile, LED bulbs are the hot "new" thing and another Google search should pay off. There are many vendors.
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stan
#4 Posted : Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:48:30 AM(UTC)
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Do you have the bulb number for the led light to replace the 1156's in the can lights?
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jralbert
#5 Posted : Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:06:34 PM(UTC)
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Sorry, Stan. Can't recall that or the p/n. I do recall finding it on the internet.. they were widely advertised as 1156 replacements. One thing I do recall..with the double pin bayonet mounts, polarity counts. If they don't work, reverse the socket connection. White light is on the bluish side.
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dougrose
#6 Posted : Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:45:12 AM(UTC)
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I have replaced all the lamps onboard with LEDs to extend my "anchor time". I simply replaced existing bulbs with the LED equivalents, saving a lot of trouble and leaving a stock look.

The stock Marinette overhead lights use automotive/RV single-contact bayonet bulbs, BA15s, and these are the same as used in many cars for backup lights and the like. You can get them lots of places, I like ebay. I would get the ones using surface mount diodes (SMD) since they are usually brighter. One disadvantage: the light is very white, not warm at all. Car stuff is usually 6000K, very white. "Regular" warm light is 2700K to 3300K, often you can get these as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-White-1156-7506-40-SMD-LED-Backup-Reverse-Bulbs-35-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5880c308daQQitemZ380117387482QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_6114wt_909

you have dual contact fixtures, like some of the real marine ones I have installed, then you can use:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290332108412&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2183wt_941

For a regular Edison screw-base lamp, you can try

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250593633828&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_3438wt_1640

These same guys sell a variety of tube-type bulbs/lamps for 120V ac and for 12 V dc.



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JB
#7 Posted : Sunday, April 25, 2010 11:16:00 AM(UTC)
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Nice! Thanks for the info. This place is great.
Any good LED for the running lights?
They are the little tubular bulbs.
If I can replace all to LED I will as long as they are bright enough with the exception of some reading lights.
I have got a "boatload" of info from looking at post and doing the search.
I have lots of small projects and a few not so small so I'll be back for info quite a bit.
Also still looking on info for a good solar trickle charger.
One additional snag is when replacing the bilge pump hose I found the pump output to be 1 1/8" and the hull fitting is 1".

Thanks

JB
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#8 Posted : Sunday, April 25, 2010 11:32:17 AM(UTC)
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THose tubular bulbs are called "festoon" and yes, I believe you will be able to find them. But unless you do a lot of nite running, why bother? Mine have lasted 15 yrs (little running at night). They don't drain the battery because you use them when underway. Only anchor lights are active when you are on the hook anda using battery current - that's where LED's are an aid.
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JB
#9 Posted : Sunday, April 25, 2010 11:47:49 AM(UTC)
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Good point jralbert!
I just looked at some festoon LED bulbs but as you pointed out, why bother?
dougrose
#10 Posted : Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:18:45 PM(UTC)
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I agree about the running lights, but if you do try LEDs, remember that the bulb has to be the same color as the lens, so you will need a red bulb, a green bulb, and some white ones.


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