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Getting lost at sea - a strong case for carrying a cell phone
jralbert
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:39:43 PM(UTC)
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No guy on this forum would match the one I ran into yesterday on the Chesapeake! I hope. But, at the end of the story, you'll read why your cell phone can come in very handy.

My wife and I were sea-trialing our boat yesterday, still trying to resolve the cooling issue you've read about. On Ch 16 there came a loud & clear request for a radio check to which I responded. The other guy (to be known as the OG) thanked me and then casually mentioned he had run out of gas and would I send someone out to help him. However, he had no idea where he was and could only vaguely describe his surroundings. In response to my question, he said he had no chart, "I don't have anything", he said

Time to turn him over to the pros - I gave him Towboat US's 800 number and instructions on how to reach them on Ch 16 (which the CG was monitoring, it turns out). TWenty-five minutes later, when I was back at the dock, the radio crackled with the same guy repeating the same dillema except that by now his cell phone had died while he was talking with Boat US (Towboat). They couldn't read his transmission so I relayed. As the conversation progressed, we tried to pin down his location by asking where he had started from..when..where he visited..and where he was headed. He had gone for lunch to a restaurant in the shadow of the huge Chesapeake Bay Bridge (can you imagine what he had for lunch)..turned south and was supposed to head in at the sight of the Thomas Point Light which is the size of a house on pilings in the middle of the bay. Unmistakable on this clear day. Had no concept of his location except that he was in 34' of water and saw a couple of silver domes. That's when Towboat US & I decided we would turn the OG over to the CG 'cause we were helpless (I am briefing this down a lot including the sometimes long radio silences where one could suspect he had fallen asleep or passed out). Perhaps, CG could triangulate his radio calls.

Towboat called me later on my cellphone to report that CG had located him. How: playing back the radio xmns, they got his cell number..called the carrier which gave them the location of his last transmission. He thought he was near or wanted to be near the Severn or South Rivers. He was actually in North Beach, about 10 to 15 miles of his intended mark which explains why I heard him so well (about 3 miles away) and Towboat (In Annapolis) could barely make him out. I plan tomorrow to call Towboat to learn how it all turned out. Starving, we had to head home knowing the weather was good...and that the higher force was protecting the OG.

I think the domes were either the Navy's big radar antennas near Chesapeake Beach or the tennis courts at Herrington Harbor South marina off Herring Bay. So, carry that cell phone, charged and you, too may be rescuable after inhaling too much "lunch".
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#2 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2010 12:42:22 AM(UTC)
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The only thing that makes that story so funny is the fact that they found him and got him to shore without incident. I remember many a such story from my days in the USCG, back before cell phones and GPS's. As a matter of fact the day I was leaving my base in Ashtabula, Oh for the last time. the Electricians were showing up to install the latest and greatest navigation equipment........Loran C:d/ . With all the electronic equip. out there and the things cell phones are capable of it is hard to fathom how people end up lost nowadays. Thanks for being kind enough to stick with the others and relaying for them Joel.
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#3 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2010 4:20:50 AM(UTC)
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I think I still have my Loran in the garage. Kept it as "backup". Worthless now since the govt decided no one would use Loran any more and started dismantling the system (after upgrading it).

A couple of other takeaways from the lost boater incident:

GOOD NEWS: You can be found with that cell phone.

BAD NEWS: You can be found with that cell phone. Our "freedom" to move without Big Brother looking on has vanished, never to return. Get used to it, I tell myself as I mutter to myself over privacy loss. I am not by any means one of the our-government-is-socialist-evil-group. However, this area, privacy, sends a little shiver up my back as I wave hello and smile to the street camera. Most of all right now, though, I need to get off the soap box, hoist my flag out front for the holiday and wish all here well. Be safe
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#4 Posted : Monday, July 05, 2010 4:16:56 AM(UTC)
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Let's hope that dope of a "boater" learned a few things:

1. Buy a good set of charts for your area

2. Learn how to read them, and

3. Take a Boating Safety course (since he obviously needs one!)

Jeff
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#5 Posted : Monday, July 05, 2010 5:48:54 AM(UTC)
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JR,
i used those camera's to keep my kids in line, I always told them, they would be on film and get caught doing things they shouldn't be doing, so use better judgement and do the right thing not the wrong things.
Also I don't blame the government for those camera's and tracking devices, it all stems from those who hate our society and way of life.

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#6 Posted : Monday, July 05, 2010 8:09:40 PM(UTC)
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I love it hope he got a ticket for being a D A my nabor at the marina were just talking yesterday that if we had to pass an I q test to buy a boat most would not get a dink I told her I am good at fakeing it but alot of commen cence gose a long way
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:03:57 AM(UTC)
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Imagine if people like this flew airplanes??
I guess that's one way to weed out the lack of common sense. People would be dropping like flies.

There is no excuse for not having any type of navigation equipment.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 06, 2010 5:40:57 AM(UTC)
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GB49 wrote:
Imagine if people like this flew airplanes??

 Karl,
They’re out there, I bet if boaters would tune in to a aviation radio frequency we’d hear about the same thing. Just a couple of weeks ago some dad took his kid to work & the kid was giving out take off & landing instructions. Now we’re talking about 100's of lives. Luckily there wasn’t a incident out of that one. Then what about the plane that missed the airport by several hundred miles dah !!! d'oh! Stan probably has a horror story or two to relate seeing he works at a airport how about it Pitts. Stan. Back to boating any yeahoo can throw some cash on the desk get a set of keys & they’re on their way not knowing the bow from the stern & even worst not knowing how to read a chart or compass or the meaning of buoys.Pray

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#9 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 12:39:03 AM(UTC)
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Norm, you are wrong. The salesman always points out which end of the boat is the bow and which is the stern.


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#10 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 1:33:32 AM(UTC)
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And left and right!

In our monthly USCG Aux meeting last night, one of the guys told of some morons that left their anchorage near NYC and headed south--without a chart on board or a GPS! Got lost around Cape May and had to call the CG for help. When asked where they were, they described some buildings on shore as a reference. But, believe it or not, they were still in motion at the time so the "buildings" on shore kept changing and the Coast Guard couldn't find them--doh! Eventually some intelligent boater, hearing this insanity, intervened and led them to "safety". Yikes!

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#11 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 2:42:26 AM(UTC)
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Doug,

Yup I forgot about that. Whistle But how quickly they forget Brick wall

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#12 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:32:21 AM(UTC)
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:36:29 AM(UTC)
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Years ago we were on the Bahama Bank east of Memory Rock, with no land in sight, sailing along at a decent clip. A sizable powerboat appeared on the horizon and dashed over to us. Pulling alongside, the skipper yelled out "Where the h*ll is West End?".

Since I was navigator, I went below and advanced our line of position from our last Loran A fix. I wrote down the position on a piece of paper, and handed it up to our skipper, who yelled the numbers across.

The guy yelled back, "Don't give me that latitude s**t, which way?" I heard him, so I cranked the plotter around to West End, and wrote the course down on a piece of paper, and handed it up to our skipper, who yelled the number across.

The guy yelled back, "Point". So, our skipper stood over the compass and held is arm out on the bearing.

Without a word, the guy turned to the heading, advanced his throttles, and left us in a cloud of diesel smoke.


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