Well I went for a New Years Day dive at Rock Port (between Alpena and Presque Isle) and was suprised to see the water had fallen over a foot from last summer. If we don't get a good snow pack this year be prepared for more problems next summer.

I had heard that the boat launch at White Fish Point is unusable because by the time your boat's floating the trailer wheels are off the end of the concrete ramp.

What you call a "blow out" (good term) happens on the Elk River as well. We get stranded at the slip for days at times, and had to wait a week in 06 to get hauled out.

Jeff

One of the smartest engineers I know once said: "God protect us from the Army Corp of Engineers!"

He knew them well.

Jeff

To All,

The Detroit News has a front page spread on the Great Lakes, & the low water levels. must be really getting serious & they can't cover it up evaporation any longer. They also state the Arizona wants to build a125 acre Wave yard water sports complex using Great Lakes water. I say BS if they want to swim & play in the water move to a State that has it. Like the States the surround the Great Lake plus Canada. In one sentence they say their crop need the water in the next they want to blow 100,000 million gal. yearly. go figure some RICH DUDE wants to get richer at our expense we already truck water there for them fountains in front of the casino’s.

Norm,

A Fastjeff prediction: Within a few years the water level will come right back up. And when it does, only the "experts" will be amazed.

Jeff

Me? Put any faith in the Government? When Hell becomes a skating rink!

Global COOLING is coming, and within ten years or so, and that will cause massive rainfall around the world. So keep 'em crossed.

Jeff

93 huh? I'll only be...let's see now, 39 plus...

Jeff

Doug:

In the 1970s, these same people who are predicting that we are about to burn up were saying back then that an ice age is coming! (One of their "solutions" were to seed the Artic ice cap with coal dust, to hold in the heat and increase the melting rate. I'm not making this stuff up!) Since major temperature shifts of our humungous planet take 5,000 to 10,000 years (peak to peak), it ain't gonna happen in our lifetime. And, no, we humans haven't anywhere near the ability to change that fact no matter what we do.

A real scientist (ie: not Evil Al) annouced two weeks ago that the ice cap in Antarctica is growing at an unprecedented rate. Also, though it wasn't winter yet, the Arctic ice cap is coming back faster than normal. Moreover, the Artic ice cap melting rate was only slightly higher than normal. Since things run in cycles, that means a cooling period is right around the corner.

Am I a skeptic on the Global Warming Scam? You bet! Here's why:

The highest measured temperature was... 1934! That's right, decades ago. And the earth's temperature has been going DOWN since 1996--not that anyone would think so with all the BS out there.

The clincher is that a century of data says that carbon dioxide increases have always FOLLOWED the temperature rise--not visa-versa. Think about that.

Thermometers accurate enough to measure temperatures are less than 150 years old. In that time the earth's temperature has risen a whole 1 degree--and it went down and up several times during that period.

Finally, CO2 is a minor greenhouse gas compared to water vapor.

The evidence continues to pile up, even though scientists have been threatened with the loss of their jobs by daring to buck the Great Global Warming Scam.

Jeff

To All,

The whole world is in a up roar over Global warming we as the human populous of the earth are just a blip in time. We should be more worried about a nuclear disaster by some terrorist group than by global warming or cooling as been stated in this thread there’s very little if anything any mortal on earth that can do to change it. So why are we so upset about things we can not change & put more focus on things we can change like terrorism. Remember the dinosaurs were around for eons than the big bang came. No matter what we do when the time comes we are history. Until than we as the human race will evolve as the earth evolves has since it’s creation, we may not look the same as we do today but look back at the troglodytes & look at us. One has to remember that the earth has just as much water on it as day one it’s just that we have displaced it in many ways with bottling etc. being one of the major causes. I myself am guilty of hoarding 20 some odd gals. in plastic bottles since the Millennium scare or now for a natural disaster, now think of all the homes in the world that my be doing the same thing U mathematicians calculate them numbers + all the water & beverages stored in warehouses if emptied our water levels would be at flood stages & we’d all be clamoring about being awash in water& Mother Nature wouldn’t have to be melting the ice caps to equalize Her planets water supply. Looking at it in another prospective before the throw away generation containers where reused over & over & are land fills weren’t over flowing with plastics bottles & the lowly shopping bag that will be buried for hundreds of years before they decompose & future generation find out the decomposition of these article are harming them in one way or another. The government is making the auto makers to get better MPG out of the vehicles (which is good but has it’s draw backs as $$$$ ) but say nothing about the amount of oil it takes to make all the plastic containers if we returned to the glass containers we’d reduce our dependency on oil where the price of oil would be back in the $20 @ bbl. range or less & guys like Jeff, & I could afford to own 60's muscle cars ( GTO’s & 454 OLDs Cutlass) & ply the waters with are gas guzzling Big M @ 33 cents a gal. boy them where the good ole days. So I guess what I’m trying to say is write to your politicians & have them address these issues. But than again it’s back to square one the political leaders are in the oil companies back pocket so it’s like trying to change the weather

Norm,