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jralbert
Posted: Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:44:58 AM
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While trying to trouble-shoot a cooling issue (see post under the "mechanical/engine" section), last week, my starboard engine, the good one, quit after starting successfully and running a few minutes earlier.. No start, even when I hit the parallel switch to bring in the other battery. What was worse, I couldn't power anything connected to the starboard battery bank. I gave up in frustration and went home.

Yesterday, same thing. No power on the starboard side. But the voltmeter showed the batteries, though not full, had sufficient juice to at least power accessories and make the engines crank. Thinking about things, I focused on a device that I had installed several years ago called "Marine Priority Start". It's advertised purpose was to sense when an unwanted drain was taking the battery down past a safe point. Hooked into the positive side, it would cut off any further drain until you hit the ignition key. As soon as I had installed it I did notice that the starter would hesitate and labor as I first turned the key; the device it seemed was trying to turn itself back on and pulling extra current. Maybe now, I reasoned, it had malfunctioned.

Indeed, it had. I removed the device from the circuit and hooked the positive side back to its normal configuration. Voila (or walla as some folks like to say)! Engine cranked and started up and the starboard side accessories were back in business.

Marine Priority Start is now on my no-priority-at-all list. It's a good concept (and maybe even works for some) and I hope is really useful in other applications. But it's off the boat now as punishment for giving me more heartburn on top of the stock market plunge! I noticed also that while it was once sold by West Marine, it's no longer on their shelves (they now sell something called a Marine Battery Brain that appears to have a similar function). Mine's in the dumpster.



Joel Albert, Potomac MD
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Posted: Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:44:58 AM
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Posted: Sunday, October 12, 2008 7:33:28 PM

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Joel,
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Fastjeff
Posted: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:42:46 AM

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Good work, Joel!

Just solved a starting issue on mine that had bugged me for years: On the Port engine, hit the "key" and nadda. Jump the solenoid, however, and away we go. Next time the key would now work (and most of the time after that, for a while). The problem was a bad electrical connect at that fuse deal next to the starter key. A thorough cleaning of the assembly and some electical contact grease and that should do it forever!


Jeff

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jralbert
Posted: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:47:20 AM
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Fastjeff wrote:
The problem was a bad electrical connect at that fuse deal next to the starter key. A thorough cleaning of the assembly and some electical contact grease and that should do it forever!Jeff
Jeff: I really admire the way you traced that one. I got lucky by starting with the obvious. My twin problems were driving me to the point of considering selling - now I just need to fix the cooling system problem (see my "smokin'" post) and I will be a contented M guy again!

Joel Albert, Potomac MD
"Charlie B" - 32' FBS
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Posted: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:09:09 PM
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I am suffering...I went to the fuel dock and when I was ready to go the stb engine did nada...
I disconected the wiring at the lower helm ignition and it started.
After tying up at port the stbd would not cut off??
I tried everthing after pulling the coil wire and reinstalling but it just clicks to restart..
Help
Anthony, sacridders@aol.com
Docsnow
Posted: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:59:15 AM

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Anthony,

A couple of things come to mind on your start up & shut down dilemma on the startup have U
tried what Jeff, suggested on a prior post on cleaning the starter fuse after cleaning make sure the spring didn’t fallout or if it’s rusted like the one in the pic a ball point spring works well as a replacement till U can get one from Napa.
On the part of where it wouldn’t shut down when U tore the ignition switch down by chance did
U cross a wire pull helm panel out check the other switch for correct wiring scheme. Here’s a pic.
of what my rusty one looked like off the F/B helm HTH Think

Norm,

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Fastjeff
Posted: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:52:16 AM

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Now, that's gonna work! (I thought mine was buggered up!)

Jeff

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