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if you're getting 6-8 stations with rabbit ears on the boat now, that setup should be ok for the future with just one addition, the digital converter box. They are running about 60 to 80 bucks and, as Doug noted, you can get a coupon from the govt worth $40. Actually, 2 coupons.
I just helped a friend install one last wk. Easy job. Tip: buy a converter that has an analog pass thru. Some markets have low power stations that will remain analog past the Feb 09 deadline. With the pass thru you will be able to receive these stations until they, too, must go digital.
As I noted, in our market, some stations already have a digital signal. Much better picture, especially the ones that broadcast that digital channel in widescreen (16:9). Once you see the picture, you'll want to go out and buy a new set. Of course, if you do buy a set with a digital tuner, you will not need the converter box.
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Looking into it all, May go back to just leaving radios on. 20 years ago had breakin at local Marina my boat was in,both boats on each side of me were broken into. I have been leaving radios on since the 70's and had mine on that night. Works well. If tv is used close blinds so they cant see in and can only see light flashes. Thanks Guys
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I bought a 20'' flatscreen HD TV last sunner I thinkg for the boat. It's a motorrola I believe. Anyway I bought it for the boat cause so many times were out anchored for the weekend and I wanna watch NASCAR or something , The damm signal would go in and out depending which way the boat moves So I got the flat screen, Channels , wow, I get 3 times the channels. and clear as all on the picture. I am hook into my ships antenna for now. works great out or in the slip.
So am I understand that I will to buy the box next year to be able to receive a TV signal?????
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..."So am I understand that I will to buy the box next year to be able to receive a TV signal?"
Yup. Got mine with a discount from the Federal Government. Looks like an old cable TV box. You have to put your flat screen on Channel 3 and dial in the stations on it. About 70 bucks without Uncle Sam's help.
Jeff
PS: Thanks John S for saving me 40 bucks!
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EDDY wrote:I bought a 20'' flatscreen HD TV last sunner I thinkg for the boat. It's a motorrola I believe. Anyway I bought it for the boat cause so many times were out anchored for the weekend and I wanna watch NASCAR or something , The damm signal would go in and out depending which way the boat moves So I got the flat screen, Channels , wow, I get 3 times the channels. and clear as all on the picture. I am hook into my ships antenna for now. works great out or in the slip.
So am I understand that I will to buy the box next year to be able to receive a TV signal????? If your new TV is already HD, then you do not need the converter box. You should know, by whether or not the channels "lock in", with no static, etc..
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Finally got around to fiddlin'  with the TV on the boat. It's a flat screen 22" HD Toshiba with a built DVD player. Great for watching movies. Could not make up my mind about the various marine antenna's so the CHEAP side of me came out  . I had an old set of VHF / UHF rabbit ears (RCA) and decided why not? Much to my surprise, the darn thing picks up all of the local digital HD broadcasts with excellent picture quality. And this is with the antenna sittin' inside the boat, in a metal roofed slip. I really didn't think it would work unless I was out on the lake in open water. :d/ They still sell these things for about $9.00. Hmmmm a $9.00 antenna versus a $150 antenna? Might be a while before I buy the 'marine' version. John B.
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I have a rotating TV antenna on mine--I tell everyone it's my "radar" unit--yet with it and the digital TV box I could not raise a signal. This is near Elk ton, MD, and the analog signals aren't that great there either.
After going on-line to investigate, I found that this is not uncommon: Most testers of the new digital system either lost all or most of their analog channels. The antenna must aim right at the station for any signal, apparently, and that's a big issue in a boat on the hook (as stated above).
We'll all see after Feb 09, but if this digital deal is a real mess, they'll be hell to pay since a surprising number of people still get their TV through the air.
Jeff
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Jeff: digital tv reception should pretty much follow patterns for analog. Try a set of cheap rabbit ears before you give up. Elkton is down low, kinda bad for getting signals from Baltimore, Philly, Salisbury.
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.."Elkton is down low, kinda bad for getting signals from Baltimore, Philly, Salisbury."
You ain't whistlin' Dixie! Gonna be watching a lot of prerecorded tapes next summer (as I already do).
Jeff
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Jeff,
Tape????? What the heck is tape? You need to dig up one of those cans in your back yard and pull out a few of the those gold coins to buy a blu-ray hi def dvd deck!!!
Fred
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If you buy a new flatscreen TV for your boat, it will, these days, be a HDTV unit, probably with analog capability. Look for ATSC tuner. If you get one with 1080p capability and a VGA input, then you can likely use it as a monitor for your laptop. There are a lot of 1024 X 768 pixel sets on sale now with HD tuners but I find that this is not enough resolution for use as a computer monitor. The "1080p" units also look great with Blu-Ray. The 1024 X 768 sets don't show much improvement over a regular DVD. Contrast is very important for watching movies, since film has such a wide range. A cheap set will not show black and dark areas properly. "Dynamic Contrast" just turns the backlight down to show darker scenes better. "Native Contrast" is the difference between light and dark on the screen in a single frame: 3000:1 is pretty good for movies. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11313991&whse=BC&Ne=5000002+4000000&eCat=BC|79|2341|3316&N=4001382%204294908733&Mo=13&pos=1&No=10&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&ec=BC-EC10605-Cat2341&topnav=#reviews looks like a good deal, although the contrast is a little low. The fluorescent backlighting in most LCD sets is sensitive to moisture. When they are available cheap, the LED backlit sets will be better for a boat.
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The biggest mess with Digital TV is going to be the little local stations that do not have to (low power transmitters) and cannot afford to switch. So now some of the off air stations will be tuned through that decoder box the Government is helping to pay for and the rest will have to be tuned through the old style TV tuner. Switching between them might be a PIA and therefore the number of people watching the small stations will drop even more and probally will put a lot of them out of business.
Heard tell there are some digital tuners that can do both but they can't be got cheaply.
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I don't think I need High Def TV, I can't see all the detail on my TV now. Especialy after looking at "SorryDog's Mermaids!
Roger
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ComputerJoe wrote:The biggest mess with Digital TV is going to be the little local stations that do not have to (low power transmitters) and cannot afford to switch. So now some of the off air stations will be tuned through that decoder box the Government is helping to pay for and the rest will have to be tuned through the old style TV tuner. Switching between them might be a PIA and therefore the number of people watching the small stations will drop even more and probably will put a lot of them out of business. Giuseppi: if you are concerned about getting low power stations (LPTV), make sure the digital converter box has "analog pass-thru". That gives you both worlds - it will convert the digital signals (and they will look better than the analog version but not true HD unless the set itself is HD capable) and it will let the straggling stations that can't afford to convert to come right through. I think the analog pass-thru feature does not add any significant cost to the unit - you just have to check specs. Around our Washington DC area, LPTV's are not a force in the marketplace. There may be some but they are marginal in the marketplace. Joel Albert, Potomac MD "Charlie B" - 32' FBS docked Deale, MD
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Good tip Joel. Thanks.
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