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NightMoves
#1 Posted : Friday, December 12, 2008 9:04:01 AM(UTC)
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Does anybody have a windless? If so is it vertical or horizonal and what make. Is it worth the money? The wife hates to pull the ancor, as I am up on the bridge watching.

Do you need a pulpet for it to work correctly?

Mike
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#2 Posted : Friday, December 12, 2008 10:45:55 AM(UTC)
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I installed a windlass 2 seasons ago and wife loves it. Same situation I control from the bridge and have a Lewmar free fall. We anchor often on Lake Barkley and Ky Lakes. It is horizontal with free fall, power up and power down. You do not need a pulpit but mine does and makes it easier to park the anchor. I can send pictures if you need them.

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#3 Posted : Friday, December 12, 2008 7:30:17 PM(UTC)
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Thank you Dave, I found a good deal on o new one but it is a vertical one and they told me that it takes up 9 to 12 inches in the ancor locker, do not know if that leaves enough room for the line in there.

Mike
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#4 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:25:19 AM(UTC)
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I also put a lewmar on my boat. I also put the pulpit, I got mine from John Althouse, on about 2 years ago. Hardest part was running power. You had the key words when you said "The wife hates to pull the anchor". she My motto is "Happy wife. Happy life. She had no problem not being the Anchor Winch. It has been one of the better upgrades I made.
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#6 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:43:53 AM(UTC)
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My 37 has an Horizontal anchor windless & I think 35lb Lewmar anchor, I know who would be pulling it up if I didn't have the winch! It is very heavy, I don't think my wife could pull it up.
I've only had one problem with it. After we came around the corner from Mackinac and headed South for Charlevoix we hit 7-8' rolling waves, that turned the anchor rope pile over so couldn't get any line out the first time I tried to use it.

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#5 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:01:43 AM(UTC)
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dard wrote:
I also put a lewmar on my boat. ...Hardest part was running power.
I read DYI Magazine article a couple of years ago that strongly suggested running the unit from its own battery located as close to the winch as possible because they draw lots of current and you'd need quite heavy cables for a long run. To maintain that battery you'd need a (low current draw) battery maintainer mounted close to the battery. For most of us, that would mean putting the aux battery and charger under the v-berth.

Another, low-key, approach: put the admiral at the helm and you pull the damn thing up. If she's uncertain at boat handling, work out hand signals. My chief mate loves to do that, feels she is Captain of the World for those few minutes. Scary at first, but it does work. You can use boat power (idle speed) to bust the anchor loose, hauling isn't really hard. Wait -- come to think of it, I should go back to having wife haul it.

Update: strike that last idea (my wife saw the post)!
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#7 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:32:03 AM(UTC)
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had a similar problem with my radio and amps .wire was too small added a gellcell bat i had, and put a ballist resistor in the line to from overloading the wire. still need to add i diode so it wont pull from the extra batt when starting the engine.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, December 13, 2008 11:42:00 AM(UTC)
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I ran mine from my backup battery which is connected to a ACR. No matter what drains down the main banks the backup is there for windlass and an emergency start battery.

The wire required to go from engine forward is expensive! When figuring you run you MUST calculate the ga. based on the TOTAL RUN... NOT one way. You also need to connect it to a 50 amp breaker within 5 ft of the battery.

You can save some wire by using a relay to move up to the switch on the bridge and use lighter wire going up.

I wish I had put a control at the main helm and the bridge instead of only the bridge.

dave
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#9 Posted : Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:34:40 PM(UTC)
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A vertical shaft windlass is closer to the deck and takes up less room than the horizontal models.

Rope is notorious for not wanting to self-stow below deck. BBB chain self-stows very well, just drops down into a pile. At least in Florida and the Bahamas, a chain rode is needed because it doesn't part when pulled across coral.

I am not sure that the forward battery is worth the trouble and expense on such a small boat as a Marinette. I have about 20' from the batteries to the winch motor, about 40' total run for two conductors. Note that both conductors are 'hot' from the reversing switch to the motor.

Assuming a 100 A circuit and a 1 Volt allowable drop (<10%) then the total allowable resistance in ohms is 1 V / 100 A or 0.01 ohms. Dividing by 40 feet gives .00025 ohms/foot.

Referring to http://www.geocities.com...t_codes/ABYC_codes.html and looking at the Wire Sizes chart it seems that 4 AWG wire, with 0.2485 ohms/foot, is the right size. It is rated for 160 Amperes.

http://www.skycraftsurpl...IEWPROD&ProdID=1211 is 4 AWG very high quality wire (need to use grommets where it goes through metal bulkheads) for $0.70/foot, or less than $40 delivered. (How am I doing here, Jeff?) They can also probably supply terminals. I would solder them.

If you don't have a reversing relay, you might be able to use http://www.surpluscenter...12&catname=electric which looks to be as good quality as what the winch guys charge $250 for.

There is a schematic of how mine is wired at http://www.geocities.com...Wiring_32_Marinette.pdf



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#10 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2008 6:40:10 AM(UTC)
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Night moves,

The other guys caught it but the piece of equipment is a WindLASS but as so many have stated that before they installed the windLASS they were utilizing a windLASSIE...and not the four legged type. This is a very dangerious boating habit and might just cause the loss of those scrambled eggs on your Captain's cap.

I survived with out either of these for years of cruising the North Channel by deftly dropping the stern anchor after lining up on a suitable shoreline tree and easing out on the anchor line while idling up to shore where my Lassie could wrap a bow line around the choosen tree. Then with the Lassie easing out on the bow line and me taking in the stern anchor line we could position ourselves in suitably deep swimming water. Without suitibaly deep shore lines I would ply the Lassie with copious amounts of liquid beverages, just after hanging the "Holding Tank Full" sign on the head. Then I found no problem in suggesting that she take a little dingy boat ride to shore..."and by the way would you mind taking this shore line with you?" But either of these methods require much forethought and planning...put the windlass in!
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#11 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2008 7:30:12 AM(UTC)
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Any particular windlass recommended? Typical cost?
I'm installing one before next season splash.

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#12 Posted : Monday, December 15, 2008 8:25:28 AM(UTC)
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The unit offered by Marinette as an option or standard on later models was the Good Automatic Anchor Windlass out of Barnegat ,NJ.

http://www.goodwindlass....indlasses.htm#topofpage

It replaces the samson post and it's above deck so it saves on rope locker space.

p.s. It's aluminum.
Peter
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:35:42 AM(UTC)
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If you go a West Marine in your area check my price, You work for Sorrydog Marine, Carl. 904-571-1350. Sorrydog
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