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#1 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2009 2:55:04 AM(UTC)
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I'm researching VHF radios for my boats. My project 32' has none. I have a 6' rail mounted attenna for the flybridge. I would like a model with handsets for both the flybridge and the interior helm. How often would a built in hailer come in handy? what kind of scanner capability do I need? I have a small trailer sailer. I'm thinking about a simple hand held unit for that boat which I will carry as a backup.

The problem is there are so many different brands and models to choose from. The price differences are radical. One article I read says the quality units have better channel separation. Transmit power and clarity is about the same for all models.
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#2 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2009 3:23:22 AM(UTC)
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I'm using Standard Horizon unit that has remote mic/dsc capability/weather channels. With remote mic, I can keep base station mounted inside cabin above lower helm. A cable connects to a remote mic with built-in speaker on the f'bridge. The remote mic can control most (maybe all, I forget) functions on the base unit. It's now about 6 or 7 yrs old and has always functioned well. There are newer units in which the remote mic is wirelessly connected (bluetooth?) which saves a big installation step. But the tradeoff is powering the remote with rechargeable batteries.

I don't know what scanning options there are today but you will want to put in a series of favorite channels (9, 13, 16, 68, 69, 70 (DSC), 71, 72 are the most favored ones in this part of the Chesapeake Bay).

Advertised ranges are mfr's guesses. Good, tall antenna is critical to range. More so than radio power. So is radio's ability to reject stray signals (sensitivity). Long time ago when they were still publishing, Powerboat Reports concluded that price doesn't equate with quality.

One feature radio must have is ability to handle DSC. It's the digital xmit/rcv capability that most Coast Guard stations can now handle for distress traffic. You can wire the radio to the GPS so your position info can be transmitted - a great benefit in an emergency. There is also the capability to do very narrow bandwidth transmissions to accommodate more channels. Commercial fishermen, for example, might utilize these "private" channels to talk openly about where the fish are biting and exclude us mere rubes from the conversation.

I haven't shopped for a radio for years but I would guess most units can now do DSC.
Joel Albert, Potomac MD
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#3 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2009 11:30:52 AM(UTC)
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Cant beat ICOM.

As Joel mentioned the DSC (Digital Selective Calling) is supported by most if not all manufacturers. I believe it will be or already is mandatory.

I've used old and new ICOMS and all have thus far been reliable and plenty powerful.

But as mentioned above the quality of antenna plays an important factor. You want to minimize the reflected power back to the radio. This is accomplished by quality connectors, coax and antenna.

Scanning features should be more than you will make use of. I can even name the channels in my ICOM. I have the name of the boat scroll across the screen when on channel 9.

-Karl
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#4 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2009 1:05:54 PM(UTC)
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(Karl: no wonder I couldn't think of what DHS stood for. A real brain fart today. Thnx for posting ever so gently to correct me. I amended DHS (what in the world was I thinking) to read DSC)
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#5 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2009 1:53:58 PM(UTC)
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No prob. Knew what you meant.
I do the same quite frequently myself. Too much stuff spinning around the old cogs.

-K
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:58:09 AM(UTC)
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Don't forget that with a hailer you usually get the ability to blow the various .]Whistle Whistle horn signals for fog, not under command, engaged in fishing,Brick wall aground, ect....

I would not want to burden myself with blowing a fog signal while making a sweaty palm marina approach
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:11:46 PM(UTC)
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I have a VHF at the lower helm, hooked to a 23' whip with I believe 19 db gain. This setup is likely to reach the coasties from anywhere between fla and the islands. You likely don't need so much.

I have a handheld to use on the flybridge, very handy for chatting up nearby boats and talking to the bridge tender. If you buy one, make sure it is WATERPROOF and FLOATS. Don't ask.


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