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Kenyon 406 Combination Alcohol /Electric Manual
RiverRatt
#1 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2009 2:38:23 AM(UTC)
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Checking out my stove, The electric works fine. I got one alcohol burner to work, neeed parts to repar the other.

Contacted the mfg. They will rebuild you old stove and or sell replacment parts.
www.kenyonappliances.com

Note on preheating burner: A common mistake is the priming grove is under the burner. Not the burner flange. see the instruction sheet.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:54:24 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for this info RiverRatt.

I tried my stove top for the first time this weekend. Didn't have directions except those on the stove itself. I have never used one of these before and got a good scare Eh? !! Let too much fuel fill up the preheat bowl...got a pretty big flame not to mention I had a small leak at the control knob shaft seal..got scared as hell thinking the flame would make it back into the tank d'oh! I could just see visions of my precious boat burning up !!

Anyway, glad to have the directions now. I understand how it worksEh?

I'm will try to tighten the small nut on the shaft seal and see if it stops leaking. What do you guys think? Will it stop leaking or should I just go ahead and order seals?

Here's good advice on the Sea Ray site I picked up for those that unfamiliar with alcohol stove tops.

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We've used our alcohol stoves for years. The alcohol flame can be doused easily with water and there are no canisters or explosive propane fumes to deal with. Propane canisters shouldn't be stored anywhere their fumes can't escape overboard. The fumes are heavier than air and light easily!

Stove fuel can mean white gas, as in Coleman stove fuel. It will not work and should not be used in an alcohol stove.

As far as the stove goes, read the directions very carefully! I just read this on another website and figured there was no point in reinventing the wheel! Here it is as posted by Ghost:

"There are lots of stories of alcohol stoves "blowing up". Nearly all of them are a cover for operators that did not follow the instructions, or did something outright stupid (like trying to refuel a hot stove).

First, WATER is a good material to fight an alcohol fire. Some of the safety benefits of an alcohol stove is that when pressurized you have a hot burning and effective flame, but when depressurized there is no chance of escaping gas igniting(such as with propane). While alcohol can leak, if it falls into the bilge, it can mix with bilge water and not be explosive. Still, with all fuels, handle with care.

If you have an older stove, there is a strong chance that the burner plunger seals have dried out and you likely will need a new one. They can be hard to find as few folks carry alcohol stove parts anymore. See if you can pump up the stove and whether it will hold pressure.

Now on to the fun part. How to use the stove. It's really very simple, but I'll warn you right now. FOLLOW THE DAMN DIRECTIONS. If you burn down your boat, I'm going to chide you for not being smarter than the stove. Before I tell you HOW to light the stove, I'm going to force you to THINK about HOW IT WORKS. Alcohol is a liquid, but we want to burn it as a gas. To turn it into a gas, were going to heat it. If not properly heated, the alcohol will come out as a liquid, run all over the place and not burn where we want it to. This is called NOT FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS.

So how do we "heat up" our stove before ligthing it.

1.) Pump up the stove using the plunger. Usually 10-20 strokes will do it.
2.) Open a burner valve and the LIQUID alcohol should run out of the burner and collect at the bottom of the stove. There should be a small recessed cup at the bottom of the burner to catch the liquid alcohol. Let this cup fill up, but do NOT overfill.
3.) Shut OFF the burner. Verify that the level of the burner cup is not rising and the fuel is off.
4.) Light the fuel in the burner pre-fill cup. You should have a flame that will rise up and surround the metal burner, HEATING IT! The flame might rise an inch or two above the burner. This is normal.
5.) Let the flame BURN OUT.
6.) So long as you filled the pre-fill cup with fuel and allowed it to burn out, you have now burned the precise amount of fuel directly below the burner that was measured and designed to heat the burner to a level that will flash liquid alcohol into a gas and allow it to burn that way.
7.) Open a burner to low/med setting. You should hear a hiss now, indicating you are getting alcohol gas.
8.) Light the burner like any other gas or propane stove.
9.) From this point on you have a hot burning stove that will work identical to any other pressurized gas stove such as propane etc... without the fear of leaking propane cylinders on your boat.

10.) IF you run out of fuel before you are done cooking. DO NOT do something farm animal stupid such as trying to pour additional alcohol into the stove right next to pre-heated hot burners that are more than capable of causing a fire.

11.) If you do not follow steps 1-5, or Step 10, then do the following.
12.) Go to the internet and loudly exclaim "my alcohol stove just blew up, we were nearly killed". "It was the stoves fault, these things are dangerous and they should not be allowed to sell them." Everyone will believe you and go out and buy a propane pressurized stove that really CAN blow up your boat for real. Worse yet is the butane burners that don't have any gas sniffing features and the very same folks who blew themselves up with the alcohol stove now us the butane burners and STORE THE often LEAKY bottles INSIDE their cabins!"


I'm will try to tighten the small nut on the shaft seal and see if it stops leaking. What do you guys think? Will it stop leaking or should I just go ahead and order seals?
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:28:44 AM(UTC)
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I have used alcohol for many years. The comments by others are right on. On my boat the stove was the same but ONLY electric which was of no use underway or at anchor without a gen.

I pulled it and installed a new Orion alcohol two burner stove. These stoves have been on vessels in Europe for decades. They use alcohol canisters which you light like a warming dish. They are large capacity.. have no parts to fail or dry out.. no pressure and put out plenty of heat! They are very economical to run and I have gotten several seasons on one fill!
Only slight modifications of cutout is required.

Best answer without going with expensive and more dangerous alternatives.

safe boating,
dave
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Got two new control knob shaft assemblies from Kenyon. Tried install this past weekend. What looked like a 10 minute job turned into high blood pressure event Brick wall The control knob shaft assembly has gears that drive a needle valve up and down to control the amount of fuel out of the burner. The needle valve dropped to the bottom of the burner and jammed Eh?

Now I can't get the needle valve out!! The trick is...you must know the exact amount of turns on the control shaft!!! The bad part, you can only guess once or the geared needle valve will get stuck in the bottom of the burner!Eh?

I have wasted $25 and still have a stove that I can't use! Does anyone have the magic rig code for this stove?

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