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TinChips
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:05:19 PM(UTC)
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Hello all,

I have heard some comments about Schilling Enamel in Cleveland Ohio. Anyone who has painted your topsides with this paint, can you comment on it's quality and UV resistance? Are you satisfied with the paint? How well does it hold up over the years?

Thanks, Craig
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:19:46 PM(UTC)
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I painted my boat with it three years ago and so far so good. Holds color resists lifting or chipping. When it gets stained with junk from the power plant, those black stains, I clean it up with soft scrub with bleach and then follow with a good coat of wax. Overall I am very pleased.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:16:01 PM(UTC)
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I painted the bottom this year with a anti fouling paint from Schilling and bought a couple gallons of top side paint from them also to do the top. The bottom came out great, and it's @ $65.00 a gallon. Haven't got to the top yet, the plan is to roll tip and polish but we'll see if I get to it now or wait till winter. I know other people in my marina who have used it as well and highly recommended it. The company has been around for years, and they wont ship their paint, you gotta go pick it up. There ya go, .02 cents..
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:59:55 PM(UTC)
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For the price, I wouldn't use anything else. I did most of the topsides this year and it came out nice. It takes some practice applying. I think its comparable to Petite topside enamel.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:14:35 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the feedback. I got a price sheet today and they are very competitive on pricing. I'm just wondering how the quality compares to say, an Interlux Brightside polyurethane. I see they have a polyurethane (one part). So, a follow up question... What is your experience regarding traditional alkyd enamel paint vs. polyurethane? I know that polyurethane is "supposed" to hold up better over time , uv resistance etc. I am aware that nothing will compare with a sprayed on 2 part Imron or Awlgrip but I don't have the time, experience or facilities to paint with a 2 part system. What have you all found in the real world?

Thanks, Craig
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#6 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:59:17 PM(UTC)
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I have no painting skills but lots of experience. I see little advantage in not using a polyurethane: Brightside is as easy to use as any paint can be. I like Petit Easypoxy, which is about as good and I am used to it. My hull is painted with a two-part polyurethane, because it sees little maintenance. A hull is painted in one go, so the two-part is not so hard to work with. The topsides are painted piecemeal (at least when I do it) so ease of use is important. A one-part paint that is waxed periodically will outlast a two-part that isn't. I roll everything, and avoid tipping if I can. I don't know of a marina that allows spray guns.


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#7 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:30:41 PM(UTC)
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Paint and chrome plating even are porous. Wax everything,, yearly or more often if you use a lot of wax removing soaps. This comes from a guy in Buffalo, NY where we put a foot of salt on our roads yearly and have a lot of automobile corrosion.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:38:59 PM(UTC)
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The one thing I had to keep reminding myself is that you are not going to achieve perfection in real world settings. Unless you have the proper facilities, you have to accept things like wind, temperature, rain, bugs. It was difficult finding out what gives the best results, (brush, spray, roller, amount of thinner). There are areas that I plan to do again as I have a little better technique now. My paint was in really bad shape so I was anxious to get it covered, then I'll go back and redo some areas, one at a time. The question you have to ask is, how much time do you want to spend doing it? If your willing to give up a good part of the season, and are patient, you will have better results. I still am very happy with the outcome though and think that as long as we have the kids at home, its easier to rough up a spot and repaint with the enamel. If you can, spraying will probably give you the best results, but that's very hard to do. Someday down the road, I will have it professionally done, but for now I'm happy, and its a helluva lot cheaper!
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:59:47 PM(UTC)
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I have decided to give Schilling enamel a try ( after I burn thru my last 2 quarts of Toplac, that is). Hopefully I can start painting soon (The to-do list is 2 pages long).

Thanks, Craig
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got three gallons of schilling bottam paint. will be willing to sell two since one gallon did two coats on my 32 ft. It is black.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:01:42 PM(UTC)
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My painting project with schilling enamel is stuck. I had the flybridge and side cowls done in a booth by an auto body shop with my schilling paint and the results were great. I tried to spray paint the decks outside myself with an expensive Fuji turbine HVLP and I have had problems. I contacted schilling about roll and tip and they said I could spray the paint or brush it but it could not be rolled. What??? Has anyone rolled schilling paint? I got a good brush and a several different rollers types and a sheet of glass. I guess I'll experiment.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:24:37 AM(UTC)
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I have had some luck rolling paints that "can't be rolled". I used the fine foam rollers from Home Despot and roll the finish until all the bubbles are gone. For the top coat, I thin the paint so that it will stretch out longer for a better shine. I think it's worth a try. The important thing is to roll thin with a dryish roller for the first two coats, then put on the top coat.


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#13 Posted : Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:28:56 AM(UTC)
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I have been painting for over 45 years with brush and rollers on boats.

With most of the poly paints and generally marine paint it can be very difficult to apply on vertical surfaces.

I have had the best luck over the years NOT using a roller. The reason is... rollers tend to apply too much paint!

If using a roller it must be foam and very tight.

After rolling tip immmediately with high quality badger hair brush. If you have a run DO NOT GO BACK AND TRY AND FIX! You must wait and deal with it after the paint drys. If you go back over you brush will drag and you will have a mess!

More times than not I apply with brush and then tip. This works best when you have areas with obstructions etc.

Marine paints are very thin and very thin multiple coats work best.

The question of 1 part poly vs 2 part. Light colors 1 part works well and holds luster well. Darker 1 part will fade much faster than a 2 part.

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