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Deviated Compass Anomaly?
GB49
#1 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:19:27 AM(UTC)
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Installed new Ritchie Powerdamp Plus compasses at both lower and upper helms. Upper seems to be working fine but lower compass deviates ~10* only when the nav lights are turned on. Turn the nav lights off and the compass goes back to its proper position.

I have not hooked up the compass light and I have not yet tried the old compass to see if it does the same thing.

Anyone else experience this? Think Eh?

-Karl
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#2 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:43:44 PM(UTC)
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It is important to keep power and its return physically together to avoid magnetic loops. That is why using cable with the power and return in one sheath makes a lot of sense. It is also a good reason not to use the hull as a power return. The size of the magnet created is the area between the power and return wires times the current being drawn.

I am surprised that the nav lights cause this deviation, because the current is low, just a couple of amps. I had a Cherokee once that had a poorly wired backup radio: when it was turned on, the compass turned about 20 degrees. I never was able to fix it because I could not mess with the wiring harnesses, just allowed for it while navigating.

There is no easy fix. Make sure that the nav lights are not grounded to the hull, and that the return wires follow the power back to the ground bus in the panel.


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#3 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:49:11 PM(UTC)
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One trick you might try is twist the wires going to the nav lites where they are near the compass. This might help.

Costs nothing to give it a try.

dave
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#4 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 4:25:21 AM(UTC)
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try led lights to lower the current

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#5 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 7:47:45 AM(UTC)
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Another vote for the Twist. Hire Chubby Checkers
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#6 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 8:20:38 AM(UTC)
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#7 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 3:16:11 PM(UTC)
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It does it with the factory compass. I'm betting anyone else that tries this will have the same outcome at least on a 32 sedan bridge from the late 80s. Perhaps on other models the wire runs are different but the harness bundle passes under the compass inside an Aluminum channel between the ceiling.
Twisting the wires is not really an option.
Nothing is grounded to the hull. All wiring follows back to the ground bus.
I'm betting the return (-) wire is not physically next to the hot which may be a problem as Doug pointed out.
Going to add about 10* to anything the compass reads while the nav lights are on.

This is really going to bug me!!!Brick wall Brick wall

-K
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:20:36 AM(UTC)
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Careful, the 10 degrees may not be the same on every possible course, you should try it for all points of the compass.

Going to LEDs for the nav lights is a neat suggestion.


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