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trontek
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:10:02 AM(UTC)
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Remembering that this Cat was built in1963, can someone help identify the type paneling for whenever I get the boat paid for. Needs replacing in spots - but not now....?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:55:50 AM(UTC)
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Wow that looks pretty darn good! Kinda looks like maple, but I don't know how well that would hold up on a boat. Call John at Marinette and ask him.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:20:19 PM(UTC)
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Do you know if this is original? I would assume you could but any type paneling that would suit your style and preverences. It looks like that may be hickory or cypress on the left of the pic but maybe teak or mahogany on the right side of the pic. You would think that Marinette would have used teak or mahogany. Its your boat now and you will have time to think about your choice so be sure to chose something you can live with for a while.

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:54:47 PM(UTC)
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#5 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:12:10 AM(UTC)
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You said paneling needs replaced, are the light areas water streaks? looks pretty shiney, but might try teak oil. Someone may have varnised over water damage? The door & it's trim are teak.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:01:27 AM(UTC)
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It's often hard to see damage in photos. You can try removing the affected panels and refinishing them. If they are beyond hope, take them to your local lumberyard and see what they can do to help you. (I take it on faith that we in Western PA aren't the only ones who still have local lumberyards.) You may be surprised what you can do by experimenting with stain. I've mixed colors to good effect. Or, if you are O/C, you can remove and refinish all of them to your liking. Even luan might work if you get stain grade on one side and back-prime them.

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#7 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:48:30 PM(UTC)
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Thanks, all. I will take and post pics of areas that water damage has lifted the outer veneer coat off the paneling. I think its original and I think it's mahogany - but I'll be searching....
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#8 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:23:13 PM(UTC)
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Man that is cool.. How many BigM cat's were made? Any idea?
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#9 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 5:48:16 AM(UTC)
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Carl(Sorrydog) might know.... This pic is where we tied up overnight at old lock 6 on the Cumberland. Last stop before lock thru Cordell Hull Lock & Dam at Carthage, TN. Lots of folks go down here for Halloween.... About five or six boats can tie here(more if we raft up). Have no idea what is in the water out in the river beyond us - as I just noticed it. That's my brother Mike transffering gasoline.

Duh! That's the plastic Sears dingy upside down on top - no wonder I don't remember a boat out there....
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#10 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 11:32:17 AM(UTC)
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Couple more pics of th' paneling but not the damages area yet
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#11 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 2:09:11 PM(UTC)
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Cool boat! This is the first time I have seen one of these. Wonder how many were made? I wish we had a picture of every boat manufactured on our site. Wished we had someone from the Marinette engineering or corporate to give us history on our site.

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#12 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:41:24 AM(UTC)
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what do you have for engines,what is cruising speed,how does it handle 2-3 foot waves. what is gas capacity,never saw one in my area of michigan,thanks for pics and your time,Bill
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#13 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:12:37 AM(UTC)
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A pair of 454's, 20x20 props. Last time out the gps only went to about 21mph at 3200 WOT. 2-4 foot waves past the barges on the Mississippi were no problem(except the bouncing shook the fuel tank on the port side, the engine quit and all I could do was go either clockwise or counter clockwise while Mike got the fuel going again. Don't know how we managed to not get run over....She'll hold about 70 or so gallons of gasoline in four tanks that look to be about 30-35 gal each. I asked Jeff if I should try to do anything about the 3200rpm. He said that if it jumps out of the hole like it does - live with it.... For the @600mi trip from Grafton,IL we got about 1 1/2mpg. Most of the time running 15-18rpm.

The pic is of a tow being worked on. I read that some of them have 9' diameter props turned by 6600 hp engines. No wonder our fuel line stopped up....
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#14 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2010 11:06:32 AM(UTC)
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"1 1/2 MPG"--excellent!

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#15 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:44:26 PM(UTC)
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Paneling from what I see, I'm thinking back in the era these boat were built, they used a formica type of paneling, which if you look at it from the side into the grain is very porous, which kinda looks like what I see in the hallway. 2 panels on each side of the wheel look like or could be teak. Panel on the wall on the left I would guess as Oak, teak would not be shiny. A easy way to update a boat and cover up stained or scuffed up areas is to wallpaper as I did Sorrydog, saw it in a 2 million dallar Ocean Yacht, called them up. Anyone can now wallpaper-go to www.paperillusions.com, get it at Home Depot. $30 bucks covers 2 sheets of 4x8 plywood. comes on a roll, like papertowels, just tear it off at any angle, dip in water and stick it on the wall, great color selection and Classy too. See interior pics of my boat at --sorrydog.com- click Listings then Motor Yacht Sorrydog- Oh Yeah, click Mermaids&tales to see the pretty Girls. As to how many Cats were built, still trying to find more. I have a 60ft. Cat, they also built a 70ftr, heard it was in S Fl. still looking for her, did find a 50ft in the Bahamas-see at www.underseawalk.com-there is a 38ftr here in Jacksonville, hull needing to be rebuilt, I also have her for sale on my site for around $11500, 10 may buy depending on owners temperature. I am told thru a very close friend of George Garcia, who built them. that they built about 4 large ones and about 25-30 38footers. I installed twin 671 Detroit Dsls in my Cat 285 HP Tops out around 17 mph cruise is about 14 mph 2 miles to the Gallon, burns about 4 gall per eng. I can lay in the hottub on the front deck and steer her from a remote control box, I also can walk around the boat once I set the autopilot and steer and shift--Yeah lost my mind-when I rebuilt her,thought I could do it for about 75-100 K-- I quit at 250 K and a second mortagage on my house!!! Be Safe- Sorrydog
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#16 Posted : Saturday, August 14, 2010 3:10:16 PM(UTC)
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Carl - Someone has varnished/shellacked over all of the paneling (Definately wood and not formica) - not the wood around the helm....Both the head and the port v-berth have woodgrain vinyl covering the paneling(as has some of the paneling on the Fisherman).
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My experience with shellac on a boat is when moisture gets behind it, it lifts and peels.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:42:36 AM(UTC)
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I have used Epiphanes Bootlak for many years and it has worked well for me. It cost$.

It is a traditional varnish, which means that it is really a liquid plastic. You put it on as thick as you can without runs, and lightly block sand between coats. As far as I can tell, it is permanent inside and good for 18 months or so on deck in Florida sun.

Scratches and dings can be repaired by putting a little solvent (highly refined turpentine) on your finger and just rubbing it out, since it dissolves the varnish. If you use a catalyzed modern varnish, you can't do that.

Don't varnish inside the boat. Remove the pieces and work on them flat on sawhorses in a dust-free place. The trim comes off easily, and most of the panels come out without problem. Be sure to install everything that goes behind the panel while it is out: only do it once. I know this sounds obvious, but I had my whole boat apart for varnish, put it together, then apart for wiring, then together, then apart for insulation. Don't be a Doug.

I stripped my trim with paint stripper, filled dings and old screwholes with West Epoxy and phenolic microballoons, sanded it with 100 & 220, bleached it with Clorox, and then sanded with 220 and put on 4 coats of varnish. It still looks great 5 years later, and should for many years to come.

The original trim and ply in both of my boats was all mahogany. Yours could well be the same. Listen to Sorrydog (he been there) but try to save as much mahogany as you can -- that's what sells the boat when the day finally comes....



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#20 Posted : Sunday, August 15, 2010 3:20:40 AM(UTC)
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thanks for reply telling about cat,good luck w/project
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#18 Posted : Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:27:36 AM(UTC)
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jimski2 wrote:
My experience with shellac on a boat is when moisture gets behind it, it lifts and peels.


My problem is the layer of veneer separating, not the layer of finish. Hopefully this pic will show what's going on....
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