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New Guy - 1954 28' Tennessee
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#43 Posted : Monday, May 16, 2011 3:34:52 PM(UTC)
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Dave,

That's a great tip about cooling down the engine. As a matter of fact, the head on my engine had been changed at some point. I guess I might have an idea why.

My engine is a Hercules IXB which is the same as a Chris Craft Model B. The Model K was a 6 cylinder Herc. I'm not expecting much performance, but good fuel efficiency would be great! This same motor was used in tractors, and military and utility vehicles.

Robert Henkel is the guy I am working with for parts and advice. website He is located on Harsens Island, MI. He has pretty much all parts, and can do the rebuild work also. I'm rebuilding my own engine. I expect I will probably have around $2000 in it when I'm done. My tranny and V drive appear to be in good shape. I am debating whether I will disassemble them.

DD
Darrell Dick
1954 Marinette 28' family cruiser
70hp Universal Unimite 4
Tullahoma, TN
DoubleD
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I thought I would get in another update. LOTS going on! I kind of feel like I've got a shotgun approach going on here. I'm pretty much working on everything at the same time - it ALL needs work!

Engine - the engine is still at the machine shop. I'm really hoping to have it back when I get back to Michigan, so I can start the reassembly. It has already been bored .030 oversize for new pistons. The block has been decked, and the crankshaft polished. Just need to finish up the valves. The machinist said he would probably have replace a few seats.

Windows - the front windshields are horizontal aluminum sliding windows. These are more like a house or trailer window than a marine window. The seals are shot and they are leaking badly. The leaking windshields are a major contributor to the rotting wood at the forward bulkhead. I would like to replace them with a forward opening hinged windshield more appropriate for a boat. I have gotten a couple of quotes, but they cost almost as much as I paid for the boat! It looks like I will be going back with new mobile home windows for now. As a future project, I think I will build my own aluminum welded frames and have them glazed. One of the side jalousie windows was removed to install a window air conditioner (hillbilly style!Angel ). The crank out louvered windows are really hard to find. I have ordered one from Home Depot of all places. I am crossing my fingers that it will show up.

Rudder and prop shaft - The stuffing boxes on both of these were unbelievable. The hoses had to be original equipment and were as rotted, cracked and deteriorated as you might imagine after 50 years of living in a bilge. No wonder the boat sunk at the dock. The rudder construction was pretty interesting. It is an aluminum rudder plate welded to an aluminum shaft. The rudder shaft was bent and seized to the stuffing box. I pulled out the sawzall and whacked it off. I am almost finished with a new one made from welded stainless steel. There was no top bearing, or thrust bearing on the rudder. I guess they were using the stuffing box for this. I think I am going to make a flanged bearing out of plastic and mount it to the top of the rudder tube. It will be inside the stuffing box hose.

Wood - I picked up a large load of mahogany marine plywood at Johnson Lumber in Charlotte, MI. I can't wait to get started with this. But I still have to finish the windows and electrical wiring first.

Electrical system - I made good progress on this this weekend. Wow, the original design was pretty poor. But, the changes and additions made over the years were a nightmare! I'm pretty much going back with a clean slate. I'm happy with it so far.

I'm hoping to get it in the water later this year. But, I realize that will be a stretch. I still think I can do it though. I think I have settled on a name too, "Greybeard". That is a relection on her age and status as first of the Marinettes. It is also a reflection on her hairy and grizzled owner.

I'm working on getting more pics up on photobucket.

DD



Thought it might be time for another update.

I tested my woodworking skills with a rebuild of the front bulkhead facing. It is built from 3/8 mahogany plywood framed by solid mahogany with mortise and tenon joints. The original had extensive rot on the port side. It looked like the starboard side could be saved. I was a little apprehensive about starting this. I have a bit of knowledge and access to some good tools, but wood is not my favorite working medium. I am more of a metals fabricator. But I took a shot at it, and I am pretty damn happy with the results. I used the old pieces for patterns as best as I could. I used a table saw for most of the cuts and to rabbet a groove in the framing for the plywood to slide into. I formed the mortise and tenons with a dremel tool in a router attachment with appropriate bits. I also built a new dashtop and control box for the helm. I will start work on a new instrument panel facing with all new "vintage" instrumentation soon.

I decided to use Epifanes Rapid Coat for my finishing system. It has some color in the varnish, and dries fairly quickly. I'm really happy with how it works. After about 4 coats, it matches the color of the original woodwork quite well. I will be replacing most of the interior paneling with 1/4" Hydrotek plywood. It has Merante facings that match the original mahogany quite well.

I have also FINALLY got my engine block back from the machine shop. I should get started on the re-assembly this weekend. This are starting to gain some momentum.

Here are some pictures: link to pictures
Darrell Dick
1954 Marinette 28' family cruiser
70hp Universal Unimite 4
Tullahoma, TN
MetalHead
#44 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:42:22 PM(UTC)
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A few goodies on EBAY

http://www.ebay.com/itm/...d%3D2806815031274012870

also

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebay...amp;hash=item2c5f45fe0e

Would be a good spare at that price.

I bought the knobs (Don't bid on them Sick ) and the tranny, distributor and a tach from him. He has the whole motor and I wish I could go get it. It is out of a 57 Lyman
Mike Ray
1959 Family Cruiser
Central Alabama
mark klusman
#45 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2011 6:54:52 AM(UTC)
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DD,
Looks like she's comming along just fine. Like the pic's of the finished work; looks really nice. Thanks for the updates .
Mark
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#46 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2011 2:54:37 PM(UTC)
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Darrell, looking good. That is going to be nice when you finish. Would love to meet you on the Tennessee one day
Wayne
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#48 Posted : Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:57:21 AM(UTC)
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I haven't posted for a while, but I have made a bit of progress on the old BigM . I got a few interior panels finished and installed. I used the old ones for patterns and the new pieces fitted quite good. I put two coats of Epifanes Rapid Coat on them and they look pretty good. At this point, I have about a third of the interior panels complete. I took a ceiling panel down to try to refinish it. Hopefully that will work out, since there are a few panels that I would rather not replace.

I built a new instrument panel also. The old panel was in pretty rough shape and ugly. I wanted to add a couple of gauges as well (voltage and an hours meter). I replaced all of the gauges with a set of gold rimmed vintage series Dolphin gauges. They look great against the newly finished mahogany.

On the engine front it has been a series of surprises and extra work. After receiving my block back from the machine shop, and the new pistons and rings I started to assemble the engine. After installing two pistons, I noticed that the pistons protruded 1/8" past the deck at TDC. Well, obviously that wont do. The new pistons were taller than the old ones. I bought them from Robert Henkel, a Chris Craft expert. We had reasoned that my Universal Unimite would be identical to a Christ Craft Model B, since they were both based on a Hercules IXB. As it turns, out the Universal is a rare 4" long stroke version of the IXB, the CC is the standard 3-3/4" stroke. Robert searched the country, but no one had long stroke overbore pistons. I had two choices, change the crankshaft, or have custom pistons made.

The cost was fairly similar, but I decided to go with the crank, since I would then have a "standard" engine, and I would end up with new bearings. After waiting for a couple weeks the crank showed up from Robert. Now I noticed that the PTO spline on the end of the crank was different between the 2. The PTO and timing gear are pressed onto the crank, so this only took a few more hours to swap using my press and an oven to heat the components. They had a heavy shrink fit of almost 0.002".

That's when I ran into the next obstacle. The new thrust bearing was about 0.030 too narrow to fit onto the block. Another phone call to Robert. Apparently, there is some variation in the width of the thrust bearings in various Hercules applications. No matter really, since the bearings can only be sourced in one size. The fix? Back to the machine shop to have the thrust surface machined to size on the block. So here I am waiting again. Surely, this has to be the end of it??

I'll work on getting new pictures up.

DD
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1954 Marinette 28' family cruiser
70hp Universal Unimite 4
Tullahoma, TN
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#47 Posted : Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:40:22 AM(UTC)
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Darrell, looking good. That is going to be nice when you finish. Would love to meet you on the Tennessee one day
Wayne


Thanks, Wayne.

I hope I do meet you on the river someday. I plan on spending most of my time with the boat on the local reservoirs. But, I have this idea about spending a few days in the downtown waterfront dockage and hanging out in Chattanooga. That's a great city!

DD
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70hp Universal Unimite 4
Tullahoma, TN
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#49 Posted : Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:53:19 PM(UTC)
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Did not know if you got this the other day
Marinette Aluminum Cruisers ID Plate
Mike Ray
1959 Family Cruiser
Central Alabama
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#50 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:05:30 AM(UTC)
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Did not know if you got this the other day
Marinette Aluminum Cruisers ID Plate


Hey Mike,

I did see that and the link to the carbs too. Thanks a lot. Interesting thing - my boat was not built by Aluminum Cruisers Inc., it was Falls City Flying Services. So I guess the ID plate is not really appropriate.

I would like to find a hull number or some sort of ID on the boat. So far, I haven't run across anything.

DD
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70hp Universal Unimite 4
Tullahoma, TN
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#51 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2012 3:23:49 PM(UTC)
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I guess it's time for a 6 month update. I have made some good progress. Lots of hard work, and plenty more to come.

The engine is now finally together. The only remaining component there is my water pump. My son works in a pump repair shop and they are rebuilding the original Sherwood bronze gear pump. Hopefully they will have it done soon. Everything else on the engine is done and looking good. I got just a little bit carried away with the stainless steel fasteners and acorn nuts!Eh? It looks great though.

I think I have finally removed the last bit of rotten wood from the boat! The interior is pretty much repaneled and varnished. The original galley cabinets have been rebuilt and refinished. I have also finished one of the berth cabinets, I still have one to rebuild and refinish.

I tore up the rotten aft deck. I cut the 3/4" teak & holly veneer marine plywood to size and coated all sides with Helmsman Spar Urethane. Three coats topside. It looks fantastic! I have repaneled the aft bulkhead exterior and I have started down the sides.

Next items:

- install new cutless bearings for propshaft and rudder shaft.
- repair keel and hull damage.
- reinstall engine & drive.
- complete aft deck paneling.
- install counter top and sink in the galley.
- Cabin flooring?

I'm working hard to get her in the water this year!

I have added some new pictures at Photobucket
Darrell Dick
1954 Marinette 28' family cruiser
70hp Universal Unimite 4
Tullahoma, TN
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Extremely cool! Thanks for sharing your pics and the story. I got my first Marinette last fall. It is a 68' 28' single screw. I rebuilt the chrysler 318 and hope to be in the water in about a week. It is probably in an earlier post - but what is that engine?
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#53 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:23:01 AM(UTC)
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Great pics Dallell,
Really looks great, done a nice restore. Keep us updated.
Mark
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