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mark klusman
#1 Posted : Monday, December 27, 2010 10:02:57 AM(UTC)
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I'm thinking of refitting my engines this spring and was wandering if anyone has done it to a 28ft. express ?
As i see it i'll have to remove the deck. Can't see doing work on the lower end without the deck gone. Looks like a nightmare around the helm for removal, thats one problem i think. Any suggestions and pointers would be a great help.
Don't have a trailer yet, but can't see trying to have any work done on the dock when you really need to have her on land ,then i should also do the cutlass. OPEN FOR ANYTHING.
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#2 Posted : Monday, December 27, 2010 10:13:08 AM(UTC)
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You may find alot of rot. :-) I replaced my cockpit deck with 3/16 alu. Drilled and tapped into the c-channel frame with counter sunk screws. Removing the screws from up top is much easier than laying on your back in the bilge unscrewing the screws and washers below.

Alu is HOT in the sun but then all you need is some non-skid paint to fix that.

On my weather deck I used a composite decking (Timber Tek). It is tounge & groove so a shot of silcone in the groove before assembling seal it pretty tight and it looks cool. Disassembly is still done from above. I started by placing the grooves to both outboard side and working to the middle where I made a piece of double groove that slides in nice and tight to hold it all together. I slide out that key piece and start unscrewing the planks.
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#3 Posted : Monday, December 27, 2010 11:30:33 AM(UTC)
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Mark,

I had one of the two engines pulled and rebuilt about 4 years ago and the cockpit floor was not removed. Mine is a 28 express bridge. A friend of mine that also had a 28 express had an engine removed and rebuilt also. So, it appears the hatches were designed for engine removal and replacement without removal of the deck. I hope this helps. Good luck.

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#4 Posted : Monday, December 27, 2010 12:06:16 PM(UTC)
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Give me a call Mark, I'm real slow right now. We have pulled those before without ripping the deck out. be glad to show you how. Also depending on if all goes through, I might have a toasty warm shop to do this in. Month or two time frame.Applause
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#5 Posted : Monday, December 27, 2010 12:15:32 PM(UTC)
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Max,
Great to hear , really didn't want to remove the deck, it's original and still in good shape. Took a look at some of the pics you posted. I'm a fan of all the 28's, but always tight when working on the engines though. Would like to do it myself but old uncle arthritis has caught up with me the last 2 yrs. in my hands and it really kills me not to do all the work now. Thanks for the reply.
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mark klusman
#6 Posted : Monday, December 27, 2010 12:22:53 PM(UTC)
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Tim,
Was going to give you a call after the first of the yr. to see if you were interested in doing the work. I'll give you a call in a couple days or come up , which either would be convenient for you.
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#7 Posted : Monday, December 27, 2010 1:32:01 PM(UTC)
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I changed the engine in my 28' as follows:

Built an A-frame out of 2 X 6s. Looks like a large sawhorse, with the feet over the frame members on each side of the engine hatch, notched to not slip.
Used a chain hoist to lift the engine clear of the deck.
Laid 2 X 6 rails under engine and pulled it back to the transom with a come-along.
Used a handy tree branch and the chain hoist to lift it clear of the rail.
Pulled the boat ahead several feet and dropped the engine down into the back of my pickup.

I reversed the above procedure to put the new engine in. It was all pretty straightforward. Somewhere there are photos, I will see if I can find them.


1975 32' Flybridge Sedan, twin Perkins 6-354 diesels, 1:1.53 velvetdrives, 16 X 19 props. Merritt Island, Florida
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 12:48:53 AM(UTC)
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Mark, I have the wood A frame with casters built for removing engine fromBigM. You can borrow it if need be. Wayne
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:14:43 AM(UTC)
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Mark I'll probably be at the boat most days finishing the interior work so just give a call anytime. and we'll hook up. Let you know what the plans are for our future shop. we are really excited about it.:d/
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:20:40 AM(UTC)
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Doug, Great idea , like the way the sawhorses are notched so no slipping. going to print off so i don't lose your way. Tree branch; was one of my favorite tools as a kid and older.

Wayne,
Will definitely keep you in mind when the time comes. Thanks .

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mark klusman
#11 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:29:38 AM(UTC)
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Tim , will probably give you a call and come up to the dock when your there. Always like to see how your progressing with your boat, one good looking marinette.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:17:51 AM(UTC)
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Mark, I am sorry to say that I gave the A-frame away when I got rid of the boat. Just wanted to mention that it was made in three pieces that slid together to make the frame. That way it could be moved and stored easier. If you would like, I will post a sketch, but it was no great engineering marvel, believe me.

If one of the Perkins diesels in my 32' needs to come out, I am going to jack up the anchor and slide a new boat in underneath it.


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#13 Posted : Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:10:47 PM(UTC)
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Doug, thanks , don't think i'll need the sketch on the A-frame. If i change my mind, which happens a lot when i think i have a handle on something, will for sure ask you to post a sketch.

Hoping this engine work will last as long as i have her. God knows how many HRS. on them . She started out as a rescue boat but don't think i would give her up now.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:21:47 AM(UTC)
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The way fuel prices are going if you are like me those engines will last a VERY long time BigM


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#15 Posted : Wednesday, December 29, 2010 3:35:49 AM(UTC)
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I guess we could convert to elect with chevy volt motors etc. Doug that will give you something to work on to design for us.

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, December 29, 2010 3:50:19 AM(UTC)
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Dave, There's not a person on the river thats not bitching about the price of fuel and the up coming summers prices. I'm like all the rest of them , hoping the barrel price will come down in the spring but wouldn't count on it.
As for the engines it really time to do the work. Kind of had it on my to do list for this year. Really don't like having problems during summer.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, December 29, 2010 7:40:36 AM(UTC)
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YUP you sure are right there. Hope is all we got.

If I stay any closer to home port I will not have to throw off any lines d'oh!


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#18 Posted : Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:12:45 PM(UTC)
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No joke about the electric motors. Cars like the Volt have large motors that would be suitable. No telling how long it will be before wrecked Volts are cheap enough for guys like me to play with, tho.


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#19 Posted : Thursday, December 30, 2010 1:19:46 AM(UTC)
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I doubt many of the Volt motors will ever show up. Since the car is a joke (40 mi range on a charge!) I am guessing it will pass into history quickly and production numbers will remain very low.

I would also bet the motors do not produce enough tourque to do much on a boat and probably would move it VERY slow and battery life would be very short.

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#20 Posted : Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:28:53 AM(UTC)
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If anyone is serious about electrifying a Marinette, look for used golf car motors. They can be used individually, or ganged in pairs to turn the screw(s).

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