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Flooring for my 37 sedan- looking for ideas. I have two dogs..
Red5
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:40:01 PM(UTC)
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Thinking about changing the carpet in my BigM . I have two German Shep dogs. And they get dirty all the time.

I currently have green carpet and it shows off the dog hair like crazy. I'm even considering going with hard wood flooring. Have any of you done this? Do you have pictures? How tough is it to have wood flooring and still have access to the engine room?

Looking for some good ideas.

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#2 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 1:31:32 PM(UTC)
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I put in bruce hardwood floors in my express... I'll see if I can find the pictures somewhere... I will warn though, if you think carpet shows dog hair, you don't want hardwood floors. They are easier to keep from getting "dirty" but show every pieced of dust or hair.

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I bought a boat that had home center light oak parquet flooring glued down over the plywood floors and hatch. The former owner was real proud of it but it was a mess, looked wrong and added a lot of weight to the engine hatch. little pieces of it kept coming off. It was a huge problem to take up. I got sick from the adhesive remover.

What I did was paint the plywood floor with porch paint. I used blue but a light tan would be nicer. Then I measured the area to make tight fitting rugs that I could cut from inexpensive carpet remmants. If I am entertaining a bunch of fisherman, children or dogs I can pick up the rugs or just replace them when they get nasty.

Forum members have put down some nice flooring. Home center parquet isn't it.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 3:01:10 PM(UTC)
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I should add that I used Bruce Hardwood Oak, in a Cherry gloss finish. The color and gloss may be more responsible for showing every little speck of dirt, than the fact that it is hardwood. A light oak laminate may look pretty nice, but I am not real sure how it would hold up on a boat. I used it when I did my kitchen (at home), and anywhere there has been a water spill that wasn't cleaned up right away, the floor has slightly peaked at the seam with the adjoining plank (not so w/ the Bruce on the boat). There is a sealer that is meant to be used for installing laminate in high moisture areas, and that just may do the trick for you...

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#5 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 3:03:26 PM(UTC)
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Installed



Mock up on the aforementioned oak laminate in the kitchen




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#6 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:44:23 PM(UTC)
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My main issue is that on the 37 sedan I have the motor access inside of the salon. So whatever I use for flooring will have to be placed on each different engine hatch and removed before every trip. I have wood flooring in the galley and one hatch, over the years that one hatch looks bad because the wood keeps comming out and stuff. Makes me think that perhaps I do need to stick with carpet.

If going with carpet what color and type would you recomend? I'm a brown water salior and have two big German Shep (Sable colored) dogs. We explore teh beeches and inslands all day then get on and off the boat. Would a shorter type of carpet work better? Wooven or shag?
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#7 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06:45 PM(UTC)
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The wood coming off of the individual hatches/boards is not an issue if done right. On a 32 express there are 4 or 5 five individual hatches for bilge access.

What I did on mine was sandwiched a vapor barrier/underlayment between the flooring and the plywood, and then used stainless screws run from the underside, up into the flooring at regular intervals. This prevents buckling with humidity changes, and keeps the wood firmly in place.

Should an individual plank ever become damaged, I can remove the planks, re-cut a piece, and put it all back together. Other than the fact that it shows dust/dirt easily, I wouldn't change it for the world. I really kicked the the "yacht" look up a few notches in my cabin... Now I just have to make the rest match...

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#8 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 7:59:55 AM(UTC)
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I've often thought of using Plasteak. Don't have any personal or friend experience with the product but have seen the teak and holly flooring in a high dollar yacht. Really good looking. Google Plasteak. Presently, I use the bulk outdoor carpet from Lowes. Very inexpensive and durable. I have a small oriental rug that mostly covers the salon carpet which can be removed easily for cleaning. When replacing the outdoor carpet, I save the old carpet for a pattern. Makes replacement quick and easy.
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#9 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 9:41:27 AM(UTC)
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I would stick with carpet. The porch paint will give you a nice colored border so you don't have to go wall to wall. You need to get to your hatches and the extra sound barrier adds comfort. I think a nice persian style area rug would add some class to the salon.
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#10 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 11:20:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: yooper Go to Quoted Post
I would stick with carpet. The porch paint will give you a nice colored border so you don't have to go wall to wall. You need to get to your hatches and the extra sound barrier adds comfort. I think a nice persian style area rug would add some class to the salon.

I may go this route...


Considering the cost of deisel fuel, I may just leave the green carpet in place and deal with it. lol
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#11 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 4:46:05 PM(UTC)
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I made a sole for my galley out of white oak scraps. I cut them into strips and screwed them together with aluminum angle across underneath to hold them together. It is excellent and has looked nice for several years.



This shows how it went together. Note the aluminum angle at each end of the section that is on edge.



This shot gives a closer look at the construction. I put a saw cut in each edge of each piece of wood, then put plastic strip between them to tie them together. There is no glue. The aluminum holds it all together.

This is the fastest construction I know of for a floor and white oak is without equal for durability.


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#12 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2011 5:56:45 AM(UTC)
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How about throwaway carpeting? You know, buy remnents and toss them out at season's end.

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#13 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:56:01 PM(UTC)
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I'm looking for ideas on decking the stern area (walk around area around engine hatch) on my 1969 Marinette RiverCruiser.
http://s1216.photobucket...dd377/projecthouseboat/
I've been perusing forum after forum (some going back a few years,) and I think I've come to the conclusion that Cork may be the decking of choice. It honestly looks pretty good, and it's durability and stain resistance is superior. Also good traction. It is caulked in between slats so its not just a poster board looking surface. The question I have is if I can use household cork (because I can get that in various colors) or is the SeaCork made differently for marine use. Just another piece of food for thought. Roger, Mt. Dora, FL.
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Roger - you should talk to flooring experts, including a mfr's tech folks about using the material outdoors on a boat deck. Seems it should work but since there's a lot of labor involved, you ought to check with the experts, and not us educated guessers, first. That said, my favorite outdoor material is Plasteak. It's the stuff on my bow pulpit -- been there for 15 years with no maintenance other than occasional hose off and once a year scrub. If I were keeping the boat, that's what I would use for cockpit area.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:33:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Roger Go to Quoted Post
I'm looking for ideas on decking the stern area (walk around area around engine hatch) on my 1969 Marinette RiverCruiser.
http://s1216.photobucket...dd377/projecthouseboat/
I've been perusing forum after forum (some going back a few years,) and I think I've come to the conclusion that Cork may be the decking of choice. It honestly looks pretty good, and it's durability and stain resistance is superior. Also good traction. It is caulked in between slats so its not just a poster board looking surface. The question I have is if I can use household cork (because I can get that in various colors) or is the SeaCork made differently for marine use. Just another piece of food for thought. Roger, Mt. Dora, FL.



Roger,

I finally replaced my rear decking with Starboard. The stuff rocks. Never gonna have to mess with it again.

I'm liking the idea of painting the inside deck and getting a large sheet of carpet and using it as a seasonal thing.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:44:22 PM(UTC)
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That Starboard is some Gre8 stuff but it’s so expensive that it’s almost as costly as Aluminum so
in my humble opinion if U R planning on keeping the BigM at least 5 /10 yrs than it makes it worth while for the ease & comfort of it cause the Price of BigM doesn’t seem to go up no matter how gre8 they may look ask any one that has sold one recently we all took a bath on the sale of them it’s just fact Brick wall

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I installed from home depot a rubber type floor resilient flooring totally water proof worked great looks good.
Installed over a year ago trimmed edges with 1/4 round pine stained and cleared trimmed the hatches with stained and cleared oak.
Installed directly over existing plywood.
I forget the cost but I think around 4.00 per sq. ft.
Cuts with a razor knife and very simple to install, not many colors though.
I will post pics if interested .
Bob
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Isn't the deck on your 1969 River Cruiser aluminum? Why not just paint it?

To finish the interior floor on my 28' express, I tacked luan on the plywood and laid cork on the luan. (The luan gave the cork a smoother surface and would be easy to pick up if someone (not me!) ever wanted to lay a different floor.)

Hope that helps.
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Rubber entrance floor mats, you can put them on the dock, soap, scrub and hose them down. Put them back when the mats are dry.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, June 26, 2011 3:16:32 AM(UTC)
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