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Relocating shore power receptacle to stern, any risk?
75 Express
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:32:19 PM(UTC)
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I am thinking of putting the shore power receptacle on the starboard side of the transom. Any forseen problems with the idea???
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#2 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:03:44 PM(UTC)
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Assume you mean inside the cockpit. That would be fine but outside the boat -- uh, uh. Mine is too close to the desk, only a few inches up. I would keep a new installation higher
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#3 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 4:25:26 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Joel
But I mean outside the cockpit on the stern. What would be the difference if the plug is quote waterproof?
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#4 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 8:16:14 AM(UTC)
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Any concern with crossed, stern dock lines chaffing the shore cord?
Would keep it up high as the prop wash/wake tend to splash up transom and run up on top of the swim platform when backing down on throttle.

Disconnect the old wiring at the boat breaker panel or else the old plug pins will become hot when you plug in the new outlet. That would be bad.Brick wall

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#5 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 8:46:41 AM(UTC)
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IMO; My Vote NO not a great location.



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#6 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 10:56:36 AM(UTC)
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On most new boats I have seen the shore power receptacle is on the outside of the hull, usually above the gunnel. And by most I mean walk around your marina and see if you can find a boat that has it on the inside that isn't named Marinette. I think on the STBD side area right in front of where you board would be good. Sort of under the Marinette logo and aft a few inches. It's a huge pain where it's located now under the wheel at the helm. All the shore power receptacles on shore are "outside".. What's the big deal.

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When re-wiring mine some time back, I recall that code required a maximum allowable distance between the breaker panel and the shore power connection. I dont recall the spec's but you might want to look it up.
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#8 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 1:09:18 PM(UTC)
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Don't know about the regulation issues, but it would be great to have a cockpit free of shore power cords.
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Go for it, Mine originally was at the stern with a screw-in type fuse box mounted on the inside of the transom :( I installed a new breaker panel in the cabin and a shore receptacle and galvanic isolater in the cockpit.
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My thoughts exactly, get the cord out from under the helm and free of the cockpit area and also to elimnate people tripping over it if i located it on the outside above the gunwale. where is it located on a Sedan Bridge??
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#11 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 10:32:41 PM(UTC)
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I guess they may be located in different places, but mine is forward in the cockpit on the port side, beside the ladder to the bridge.
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I still vote no. What happens when the "waterproofing" fails (which will "never" happen until it does). This is AC power you are messing with. A friend had a silverton w/an auto cord restractorin the cockpit. Expensive but quite tidy and effective. The cord was stowed below deck. Nah, I don't like that one, either. Nasty under the deck and quite hard to reach for repair.
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#13 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2011 11:43:49 PM(UTC)
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Joel, how do you connect to shore power on the dock? It's all outside..Don't see the diff. And most newer boats have a receptacle on either side of the boat. On the outside of the boat. How at GFI's? Extra protection I would think..

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Sunset Seeker's a 32' Sedan Bridge. Like Jim's notation, the shore power recepticles are located in the forward port cockpit wall, next to the ladder. I'm glad that they're at that location for a few reasons:
1. We have a ritual that we follow re: connect / disconnect shore power -
- Leaving dock: engines started, water from exhausts checked (ie. pumps runnin'?), turn
off shore power at stantion, disconnect shore power in cockpit, hand
off (keeping 'em out of the water, dead or not)and coil at stantion.
- Return to dock: Back in, initial tie off, shut down engines, finish tie off, retrieve
shore power cords, string from stantion to back of boat(keeping out
of water using a velcro pigtail to attach to rail and maintain water
clearance), attach at boat connectors, turn on power at stantion.

2. If the power connectors were on the outside and (thru some fluke), shore power hadn't been
switched off, and in a 1 in a thousand "oops" drop of the cord into the water could have some
serious consequenses.
- How far would the electrical charge in the water travel? Would the stantion breaker
trip instantaneously? Is there someone in the water that could be shocked? Or is
there someone with an aluminum gaff trying to fish something out of the water?

While a stretch, I know, I just wouldn't want to be trying to explain to a parent why their kid, innocently swimming/playing off the end of an adjacent boat, had been harmed by my unintentional "oops". With our ritual and the fact that, with the power connectors on the inside of the cockpit where there's stability and positive control, there's no chance of an "oops" happening.

Bill (and yeah, my kids crowned me with the monicker "Overkill Bill" some time back. Whistle )
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Originally Posted by: collins69s Go to Quoted Post
Joel, how do you connect to shore power on the dock? It's all outside..Don't see the diff. And most newer boats have a receptacle on either side of the boat. On the outside of the boat. How at GFI's? Extra protection I would think.. Sean
Sure - the onboard shore power connection is INSIDE the cockpit, to the side of the ladder to the f'bridge. The cords are always plugged in to the receptacle. I coil the cords and tie them to the side of the ladder w/strong bungees. On the dock, the lines get connected to a receptacle at the top of a post, well away from the way.

Again, I don't like the idea of a receptacle on the outside of the boat where it is readily splashed. Think about what goes on back there when you are reversed or make a quick stop. You can't entirely isolate the receptacles, of course. They are by nature located on the outside and hit by weather. This is merely the way I would(n't) do it on my boat. My quirks.
Joel Albert, Potomac MD
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