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ThanksDad
#1 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:55:07 PM(UTC)
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Need some help troubleshooting. Didn't have a tester light with me this weekend, so I am guessing on some of these facts. The port engine would not turn over at all. the starter would not even click. Here is my troubleshooting thus far.

- The ignition was active as my gauges came alive with the ignition switch on and hour meter was running.
- I was in transmission neutral because when I activated the starter switch, I noticed a voltage drop on the ammeter, Like when starting.
- I swapped batteries (Starboard started no problem) and had no luck.
- Used parallel switch with no luck and again saw "appropriate" voltage drop.
- Again, starter/solenoid would not even click.

I seem to remember reading a few years back on the site that the first step might be the "starter relay" located on top of the engine (1988-318). What does this do different than a solenoid as I am assuming they are not one and the same? I am just looking for a place to start. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Scott
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#2 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:30:17 PM(UTC)
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There is actually a difference between a start relay and a start solenoid.

You have a start relay. It has a small coil that pulls a pair of contacts together to provide current to the start motor. It should have a small connection to the coil, that connects to your starter switch. It has two large (usually 3/8" or so) studs, one of which connects to the battery and the other of which connects to the starter. When you hit the starter switch, you should get power to the coil, and that should pull in the contacts that connect the battery to the starter.

A quick test to see if the starter is working is to short the two large studs together. Don't use a screwdriver, use a jumper cable. If the starter spins, then check to see if you get voltage at the coil when you hit the starter switch. If you do, you probably need to replace the start relay.

Put a small lamp across the starter switch (from ign to start) and it will light when the neutral switch is ready to start, otherwise it will be off. I installed such lights because I got real tired of jumping into the engine compartment only to find out that I was in gear. The admiral always thought it was a hoot, tho.

A start solenoid is an actual solenoid that pulls the gear on the starter into engagement with the flywheel ring gear, and at the same time provides the contact for the start motor. I have them on my Perkins diesels, but I don't think you have them on Chrysler engines. Could be wrong....


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#3 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 5:29:26 PM(UTC)
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Link to pic of relay

Carry it to the nearest parts store and they will find one to match.





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#4 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 7:18:26 PM(UTC)
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Check the button on the trans for the shifter. Take some WD40 or something similar and spray the button and work it in and out. They get sticky.

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#5 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 4:22:39 AM(UTC)
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I had a similar issue with my boat turned out to be ignition switch ,got lucky with diagnosing it. Just pushed the switch a couple of times and it started.
I would purchase a cheap 12 volt test light you can check a lot of stuff with that.
Bob
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:20:29 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for all the input. The statement to always have a test light on the boat is sage advice. Turns out it was a bad wire connection on the stud side from the relay to the battery switch. Cleaned it up real well and all was forgiven. It seems it is just another one of those items that crops up when we don't run the boats enough. Oh well, time to burn some dinosaur!

Thanks Again!
Scott
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#7 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 2:06:12 AM(UTC)
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