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Roger
#1 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 11:22:48 PM(UTC)
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This is the second try. The last post did not go through (message indicated "serious error uploading" and kicked (and ticked) me off!)
Since I haven't got as many responses back as I would have expected, I'll give the question a go again on this site.
I'm moving along with the idea of locating a propane fired burner (a flameless hot water heater) to be located OUTside of the boat.
One concern is the so-called "station wagon effect" which is wafting of burned gasses (CO) up and over and possibly inside cabin.
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What I'm questioning is that if the hot water heater only runs for a few minutes at a time is there really an issue with possible gas build up? Note: I will of course have co and propane sniffer alarms as well. The "Gases" I'm talking about is whatever gases are left after the burning process or coming off the burner (CO?) What if I install a flue or small chimney to divert any fumes away? (the picture is sort of exaggerated

Another question that came up by someone else is that since the tankless hot water heater/burner unit requires a minimum flow of water to turn on the solenoid to start the burning process will my on-board water pump keep up or will it have to be "re-worked" ?
Please pass these questions on to someone who may know about these things.
This second attempt at posting is much shorter than the first, hope it goes through...
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#2 Posted : Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:29:24 AM(UTC)
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Propane burns very clean with hardly any Carbon Monoxide generated if your burner is adjusted properly to burn blue witn no orange colored flame. Propane powered fork lift trucks are operated safely in confined spaces like factories every where.

The danger is it is like gasoline and is heavier than air and will flow into low places in a boat and become an explosion hazard.
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The BoatUS magazine site, I am almost certain, has a piece on safe propane storage. What I recall is that tanks are to go into an box with a vent at the bottom that leads o'board via a short tube. But don't follow that -- double check it...it's just a hazy recollection (like everything else in my head).
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#4 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 8:51:34 AM(UTC)
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If you run the propane line inside the boat, then you must have a remote shutoff at the tanks. I don't know how you might get this to work with a hot water heater, I have never done it.

The "minimum water flow" issue is important. It is likely that your water pump can handle the flow, unless you have a very small one. But does your rv-style shower head flow enough water to trigger the heater? My mother's Paloma heater would not turn on unless the shower was turned pretty far up.


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#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:14:57 AM(UTC)
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Couple of things........In really cold weather we close the windshields (lower station operation) to keep warm and, invariably, the CO detector in the galley goes off. (Bless its little heart!) So there definitely is "station wagon effect" on a 32 Sedan.

In my house, we use a propane heater in the living room to heat the house. This is a "ventless" heater with no stack that is 99.9 % efficient. (The "Admiral" is susceptible to all kinds of allergic stuff, and this has caused no problems over the years.) My point is this: If the heater makes blue flames, the fumes will not bother you. Period.

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