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nomad
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:40:20 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone, I have boat fever and really want to purchase a boat for the great loop. I love the looks of the BigM but can't really find anyone doing the loop in one. Is this boat not a good choice, or if so, which model. I will not be in a position to do this for another 7 years but would like to go ahead and get a boat to enjoy and get ready for the trip. Hopefully kids will be out of school and grown at this time. If you read the fiberglass sights, they don't like aluminum boats, too light, flip over in rough waters, etc.....

I have owned several ski and fishing boats but never a cruiser, what would be a good choice?

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:28:55 PM(UTC)
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Nomad,
Since you seem too not have a preference on glass or aluminum ; i would take a look at Marinette's . They quit making them around 1992 but if you take care of them they will be here long after the glass tubs are gone. You need to check out a few. It's a personal preference amoung we owners. Yes they are lighter than glass the same size but can't recall hearing of one being flipped over. Since you have about 7 years to make a decision take your time, but in my opinion Marinette's best boat for the buck and best built.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:21:12 PM(UTC)
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Nomad,
My wife & I are presently doing the loop in our 1983 37' double cabin with twin diesels. Search the loop on this site or send me an email, I'd be happy to answer any ?.

Roger
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:19:41 PM(UTC)
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I would like to go ahead and purchase a boat sometime next year and familiarize myself with the boat. This would also give me time to update any navigation equipment a little at a time without breaking the budget all at once and basically do any remodeling or updates.

I do personally like the idea of the aluminum boat. I have experienced problems with fiberglass and rotten transoms in the past. Nothing like launching the family boat, go park the truck and then return to find the boat going gloop gloop gloop gloop with water pooring in around the outdrive because the transom rotted out.

I also have 20+ years exp. as a mechanic and also owned a custom cabinetry shop for 10yrs. What a great combination, I can do repairs.Dancing

anyway, I just love the marinette's, I always seem to come back to them when looking. My main concern is fuel capacity.

nomad
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:22:35 PM(UTC)
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The Marinette is a solid performer and have and still are very popular on the Great Lakes which get plenty rough!

Like many boats in the 30-40 ft range cruising range can been a bit of a challenge on some of the legs on the Loop.

Marinettes are light which provides better fuel economy and shallow draft which can be a real plus on the intercoastal waterway.


Only wish my wife was as interested in boating as I have always been.

safe boating,

dave
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:53:36 AM(UTC)
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Think of it this way: You're tooling along down the Mississippi when--blammo! You hit a floating log.

Here's what happens next:

1. Fiberglass boat: Assuming you can haul her out before she goes down, you call in a fiberglass expert to repair your hull. (Naturally, you will be stranded in East Overshoe where no one availlable for a hundred miles.) As you reside in the local Roach Motel for a week or so, eating ugh local food and getting around in a clunker leased from Ralph's Rent-a-Wreck, the bills keep piling up (along with indigestion). Finally, you hull is repaired and you're on your way again, this time being paranoid about whacking another log.

2. Aluminum boat: Drop the hook, beat the dent out with a hammer (or let it go), and prceed on your way.

Tough choice!

Jeff
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:26:04 AM(UTC)
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Ahh Jeff you have a way with words! Well done and off ya go.Applause
If it happens between Alton and Paducah good luck on the haul out ! Long lonely ride from Alton to Grand Rivers on Lake Barkley.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!


safe boating

dave
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:16:42 AM(UTC)
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We did bump a log or two on the Mississippi but had no damage at all!
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:03:00 AM(UTC)
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Jeff, you deffinatly have a point there. I am seriously leaning towards the Marinette just not sure what year and size to go with. Which model offered the largest fuel capacity? Diesel or gas is not really a factor to me. I was leaning towards diesel but they are so much more expensive to service when something goes down. With a gas engine, I can overhaul it for the same cost of an injector pump and a few injectors. Diesels are great as long as they are running but can really cause a pain in the pocket book when something major happens.

Another great thing I have noticed about the BigM , the price seems to be lower on most compaired to some of the fiberglass boats out there. After reading a few servey reports; blisters, delamination, rott, leaks, etc...., the fiberglass has some major down falls.

I read info on galvanic corrosion, how big of a concern is that? How likely am I to leave my boat in a slip for a couple of weeks unattended and come back to an issue because some yahoo next to me is having an electrical issue?

Thanks for all the great information by the way. I really appreciate your time in answering my questions.

Nomad
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2012 12:20:09 PM(UTC)
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Good time to buy a boat. You can get a completed boat for a good price and a real bargain on a project boat.
With Marinettes the main repair issues are the state of the engine(s) and the paint job. Your experience with engines
will apply well to the Marinettes inboard design. Painting aluminum is tricky. You have to etch or use etching primer on
bare aluminum and a Marinette complete bottom job is no fun. but there is plenty of info on this site about paint.

I have two project Marinettes. My 32' twin is going back in the water this spring with it's new topsides paint.
I will pull the 28' single for painting. In this market look for a completed lake boat.

One big issue is the need for a trailer. I need them to manage my boats. My state run marina has no repair or winter storage.
If you find a nice 28' or 32' fitted to a trailer consider it.

I actually bought the 28' single with a loop trip in mind. Since then I learned that a 25 horse kicker should be mounted for
backup. Also "fresh" water cooling that uses an enclosed anti-freeze system would be best for the loop. These are not cheap
systems but could be installed by a good mechanic on a former lake boat like mine.
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#11 Posted : Monday, January 09, 2012 5:05:52 PM(UTC)
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Nomad, we have completed the "little loop" (circumnavigation of Mississippi) in our 32FBS. Gasoline was a big issue on the lower Mississippi. Otherwise, no problem; we did have to wait for calmer water on the Gulf and Mobile Bay. We've been considering a Loop trip and have had our M on the market so we could purchase a single diesel trawler to capitalize on the reduced fuel usage and cruising range. However, after figuring how much gas we can buy with the $ saved keeping our paid for M it's no contest. Assuming you are willing to make good decisions about rough water layovers and the realization that you're not piloting a long range cruiser (break the trip into lots of small cruises), we believe the M is a safe and workable solution. Good luck, hope it. Works out for you.
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#13 Posted : Monday, January 09, 2012 9:33:33 PM(UTC)
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I have looked at trawlers and the only affordable ones (in my price range) are foreign made boats with poor maintenance reviews. I am 7yrs out from being able to think about doing it but want to go ahead and purchase a boat to enjoy now. I have to ask myself if I would actually do the loop or just cruise around enjoying myself. I just wish there was a fuel option for the BigM
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#14 Posted : Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:26:54 PM(UTC)
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I have owned a 28' converted to single diesel, and currently own a 32' converted to twin diesel. I have learned a lot about diesels in Marinettes and have put some thoughts on my website: http://web.me.com/dougmr...nversion_to_Diesel.html

For a solo trip I would prefer the 28. I bought the 32' because there was not enough room for more than two in the 28. Now that the crew is in college I wish I had the 28 again.

Trawlers are nice but 8 or 9 knots gets old after a few hours. Boats that go 15 knots or more are not trawlers.

If you are interested in doing an engine conversion, then by all means put the engine you like into a Marinette hull. If you are interested in looping, then get a boat in decent running condition and loop.

A 28' with a healthy single 318 would be fine. Remember, a good marine radio and a towing plan are cheaper than a second engine. Use less fuel too.

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Twin Perkins 6354 diesels, 120 hp each
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