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#1 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2008 2:31:33 AM(UTC)
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I am tired of buying stuff that just doesn't work. Anybody have a method to strip heavy oxidation or scratches off a flybridge windscreen. My project 32' sat out in the weather for years. So I got a new Ryobi buffer and two kinds of rubbing compound. It is all too lightweight. All I got now is shiny areas of plastic between oxidation spots. I probably need to sand the plastic first but I don't want to wreck the piece. Anybody have a sure fire specific receipe. There are kits advertised on-line. You send away 20+ bucks and they send you a few ounces of stuff ten days later that may or may not work. There is also a guy that runs an auto finish supply store that offered to work with it. But Jeez.. I would like to be able to do some of this stuff myself. I appears I can't paint and I can't polish. Maybe I should just go ahead and launch a really ugly boat.
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#2 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2008 4:24:55 AM(UTC)
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Boo hoo! Yoop
The only way to get rid of the oxidation is replace the plastic. Once it is as far gone as yours thats the only solution. All the products out thereonly work marginaly on slight oxi. Once you start using the sruff it constant maint after.. The good thing is you still have the old sections of window. and with a little skill with the sewing machine you could have a brand new glass inclosuer. Place the new plastic material over the old stuff and flaten it out, sew around the outside edge and then very carefuly cut the old discolured section out. When I bought my 37' the bridge inclosuer was missing the three front plastic panals and $800.00 later My canvas guy said the previous owner probably had the three pieces at his canvas guys shop and forgot to pick them up after a long winter . I called the broker that I bought my boat from.........you know how that goes after the sail, they dont return your calls.. "Coral Gable Yacht Sales" out of Grand Haven, MI Sorry for the run on reply it is raining out side and I cant work on the outside of the boatSick
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#3 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2008 3:35:57 PM(UTC)
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This are the solid 1/4 inch plastic windows around the top of the flybridge. It is not the flexible enclosure plastic. I went by the auto paint supply store. They gave me some 1500 grit sand paper and sent me out for some 3M Perfect 3000 rubbing compound. The label says it is specifically for rubbing out scratches made by 1500 grit sandpaper. So it looks like it might work for me. It may actually work on plastic headlight lenses.
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#4 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2008 11:12:07 PM(UTC)
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My mistake,
I thought you were talking about the thin plastic.
I replaced my 1/4" plastic "wind screen" with a solid piece of 3/16" aluminum. The plastic windscreen was broken on my last trip home from Put in Bay. Real nasty weather. Waves over the bridge.d'oh!
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#5 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2008 11:50:18 PM(UTC)
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haven't tried them in awhile but search "micro-surface finishing products" they are located in Wilton, Iowa they produce a kit that the airlines use to remove the scratches from the cockpit windows of commercial airliners. the kits vary with the type of scratch you are dealing with. Whatever you choose, you will have to get aggressive to remove scratches and slowly move up the grit chain to 4 to 6000 micro to finish.
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#6 Posted : Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:56:07 PM(UTC)
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Yoop,

I used a fine or medium (cant remember) rubbing compound on the forward hatch to remove the oxidation. Then I hit it with Meguires scratch/wax compound. I used the buffer for both applications and removal. Worked very well.
On something like that windscreen you may be better off replacing if someone will cut those angles for you.

I posted some pics and the exact name of the wax on another thread somewhere around here.


-Karl
1986, 32' Sedan, twin 360ci, 275hp Chrysler's w/ K&N flame arrestors
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#7 Posted : Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:11:26 PM(UTC)
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Well I got pretty good results on a piece of the 1/4" plastic windscreen on the flybridge. That stuff is hard. I can see how it could be used for the sliding windows. Is it less than or more than glass?

I never buffed anything out with compound before so it took me all night to find the right technique. I couldn't buy a clue until I broke down and read the directions on the 3M Perfect 3000. The directions on the compound said to put on enough to leave a thin wet coat after a couple of passes and lighten pressure as it dried. That means put in on and buff till dry. So I threw away the buffer applicator bonnet that I had been messing with and put on the fluffy bonnet. This is after a thorough sanding with 1500 grit. You spread the compound on the piece and start buffing. You keep it up until all the compound is dried and gone. Toward the end the buffer will start to glide accross the newly smooth surface because you buffed out all the wet and drag. Also the bonnet will dry out and go from wet and sticky back to fluffy.

That is still quite a bit of buffing. I think I will see If I can find some 2000 grit to follow the 1500. Might go faster when I take on the bigger pieces.

Karl,
What was frustrating was that I bought two other kinds of compound before I asked an autobody guy for advice. They were both too mild. This process also took the yellow tint out. I am a behind on the project 32'. I just painted the cockpit area so I will be putting in the new Rhinolind decks. I have to buy flybridge seats. I have cleaned up the flybridge wiring harness and put two new engine cables up the chimney. I need to find some wood to make a new cradle for the flybridge compass. The big job is to get the top deck painted to match the freshly painted flybridge. Another boater looked at the hull sides and said I could go another couple of years if I just sanded and compounded them. Now that I am a compounding Sun God that may be feasible. But that will wait until the fall. I failed trying to run new flexible air conditioner duct to the V-berth. I tried to used the old tube to pull the new tube through but I kept getting hung up. I hate that wine celler area where they put the thing. They ran the old tube behind the portside interior wall. They could have run it under the dinette floor. How is yours set up?
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#8 Posted : Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:56:57 AM(UTC)
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Yoop,

I replaced all 3 bridge seats and pedestals last year. They fit nicely. I'll look for the paperwork with the part#s.

The hull paint on that boat seemed to be in pretty good shape compared to everything else. I would say you could get another couple years out of it too.

My ac duct it run behind the port wall too. It looks like a real paint in the a$$ to get to. I don't know how they did it.

And yes, every time I contort myself to get into that damned wine cellar and get a charley horse and end up cursing left and right.

Why we do all this for our boats I don't I'll ever know. But for some reason I keep doing it. Brick wall

The thing that would keep me going with your 32 are the extremely low hours. Its most likely the only Marinette in existence with so few original hours.

Good luck with everything.

-Karl
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