I simply won't buy from anyone who requires a login just to get info. There's no legit reason to require that I give out my information just to see if what they are selling is of interest to me. Either they're they don't know what they are doing or there's a very hard sell (scam) coming. Either way I don't want to deal with them.

John

Dear JHall

In reply: I simply won't buy from anyone who requires a login just to get info. There's no legit reason to require that I give out my information just to see if what they are selling is of interest to me. Either they're they don't know what they are doing or there's a very hard sell (****) - Deleted per flame ED- not a site opinion - coming. Either way I don't want to deal with them.

John

It is your choice "not to deal with us" however, it is a bit derogative and slanderous to suggest an organisation is a **** (Ed- deleted) based on their method of log in. If you had been astute enough to really investigate the product on the website you would have come to realising that to avoid the log in all one has to do is click on the top menu bar or next in the top right hand corner.

The log in is used specifically for stat collection with our marketing - go see our privacy statement which is very comprehensive

Lloyds have scrutinized the product and they accept it on their register and are quite excited about it.

It is quite amazing how when a legitimate organisation pays courtesy to its market and introduces a product for the benefit of its users how this gets turned around by the likes of people like you who have no valid nor informative criticism to make- naivety is no excuse- please consider the ripple in the pond effect on how what you say may impact someone and somewhere else- Good Luck to you!

You are right barkleydave- you all know enough now- I find it interesting that some people on your "little big m site" can be so ungrateful for information that could benefit all of you - Good On ya- as for the larger fish to be fried don't worry it our marketing department has that all under control. Thank you.

ED - Flames are not permitted. This is about boats.

lets all hope whilst you are moving on with your limited boating season that none of you experience any electrolysis and regret not taking notice of a product that can save you the heartache of replacement and repair- not to mention saving our sea and river beds.

happy boating to you all - end thread

Flames are not permitted. Seabis is a legit entity, with a interesting product. We appreciate their product and efforts. This site supports any company (as long as they are legit). This site will not be hostile to businesses providing products or services to the Aluminum boat community.

My comment on the login requirement was that it was (had been) weird. Not bad, but unusual. If the product is not a direct market product, it is common for the sales team to have a request info portal. Raymarine does this, but also has a lot of data outside the portal also. But if you are seeking decision making info, you have (or had) to sign in. Seems to be a lot more available. I had the same issue with FWMurphy on getting info, and they put a lot more info on the product on the site. Made a difference in buying the product.

As the site owner, I provide a free forum for advertising products of interest. As long as it's legit and in the spirit of the forum, it's fine.

I do limit my personal info. The US Federal Trade Commission http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/e...umer/alerts/alt106.shtm and the Australian Commission on Privacy both recommend limiting the amount of personal info. People in other countries like Australia have a different take on privacy, and healthcare.

It has made me consider the site registration information to limit it to location, first name, type of boat (or association to boating) and email address.

Despite everything I leave the Marinette forum open to Guest viewers who need the information and wish to access it.

Please send the forum owner an email if anything like this happens.