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ComputerJoe
#1 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2008 1:23:49 AM(UTC)
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This item came out of the area near the engine. Most of the electrical wiring was disconnected and it was hanging from a wire which I didn't trace back. Wish I had but there it is...about 3" long, stainless screen, an open air filiment internally.
Is it a fuse, a heating element, what is the darn thing!
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#2 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2008 1:59:19 AM(UTC)
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It looks like either a quartz heater or an ozone generator.
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#3 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2008 4:16:49 AM(UTC)
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it may be a gas fume sensor.



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#4 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2008 8:45:45 AM(UTC)
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Are there any markings on it? Manufacturer?
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#5 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2008 9:05:24 AM(UTC)
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is it still ticking?
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#6 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2008 10:20:01 AM(UTC)
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Good one, Joel!

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#7 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2008 2:28:45 PM(UTC)
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Back in the day those old Chrysler's worked on the heterodyne principle by mixing oscillating waveforms. Improved performance and economy. That is a photo of an octal-base thermionic valve. Whistle Liar Whistle Liar Whistle Liar Whistle Liar


Actually looks like something I wouldn't want running in my engine room.

Though, I guess the screen makes it ignition protected. Eh?

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#8 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2008 2:34:06 PM(UTC)
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GB49 wrote:
Back in the day those old Chrysler's worked on the heterodyne principle by mixing oscillating waveforms.
Improved performance and economy. That is a photo of an octal-base thermionic valve...

Good one Karl.
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#9 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2008 10:06:28 PM(UTC)
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Narw, It's obviuously a super synchatron.

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2008 2:28:43 AM(UTC)
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No manufacturer name.

It kind of looked like a fuse element but its glass tube was intentionally open to the atmosphere.

First thought was it had something to do with the CAPAC system.
Second thought it was a heater, but it is so small it couldn't heat much of anything.
Third thought maybe if gas fumes were below decks and entered the mesh chamber the element might ignite them and in the process burn itself out and cause a warning light of some kind or disable the engine????



I like the idea of a thermionic valve, maybe I can pull one out of my Bogen amp, but Jeff might be closer with the super syncatron idea.

The best thing is...I've got one and you guys don't! Chock one up for me :d/
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It's ..........extra!
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:06:56 AM(UTC)
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:10:16 AM(UTC)
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fume detectors work by running a hot filament inside a wire mesh cage. when there are combustable fumes inside the cage, they burn and the detector trips on the extra heat. the wire cage keeps the flame from spreading to the air outside the sensor.


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#15 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:23:00 AM(UTC)
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I wish I didn't know that, Doug!

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:35:59 AM(UTC)
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dougrose wrote:
fume detectors work by running a hot filament inside a wire mesh cage. when there are combustable fumes inside the cage, they burn and the detector trips on the extra heat. the wire cage keeps the flame from spreading to the air outside the sensor.


I do believe you hit it on the head. I had no idea how fume dectors work...my wife always tells me when I have that problem and I will not even attempt to try and figure out how a women works.

Thanks for all the helpfull sugestions and a few laughs to boot.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:58:12 AM(UTC)
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I'd put a little power to it, just to see what happens. First try 12v, then 120v, then hit it with 240v, just to be sure it's really dead.

Always worked for me, as a kid ;)
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:31:32 PM(UTC)
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YOU GUYS DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS!!! ITS A FLORIDA MOSQUITO/BUG ZAPPER!!!! Sorrydog
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#18 Posted : Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:04:28 AM(UTC)
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jsimanella wrote:
I'd put a little power to it, just to see what happens. First try 12v, then 120v, then hit it with 240v, just to be sure it's really dead.

Always worked for me, as a kid ;)


The filament is broke!
I was wondering what irreplaceable component it might be before disguarding it.

Thanks anyway

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#20 Posted : Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:17:30 AM(UTC)
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If that's the case, then you may need to start with 240v out of the gate. I'd apply that to the primary side of an automotive coil (a spare would do), then attach your unit to the secondary side.

Try all of that and report back on your findings.

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#21 Posted : Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:37:06 AM(UTC)
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jsimanella wrote:
If that's the case, then you may need to start with 240v out of the gate. I'd apply that to the primary side of an automotive coil (a spare would do), then attach your unit to the secondary side.

Try all of that and report back on your findings.

John, the electrician.


Can't I just tap off the coil? Isn't there something like 14,000volts there?
I just poured 5 gallons of gas in the bilge and open a propane bottle to make sure there is enough vapor to make sure this thing will work.
Will you mind coming over and help me test it? The beer is free!
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